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Just bought the Bugera BVP5500!

#21
beeray said:
Im playing through some bottom of the line 8 ohm peavey 15s (the amp does 300 watts through 8 ohms) and it scares me im gonna blow em so i am going to buy a nice 4x10 4 ohm setup soon i hope.
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Something tells me you don't understand the output ratings.

If you are playing through SOME 8 ohm 15's - that means more than one. If you are playing through more than one (probably a pair) of 8 ohm 15" cabs, then you are already playing at 4 ohms.

Just because the amp puts out 300 watts @ 8 ohms, does not mean that every 8 ohm cab connected is getting 300 watts.

You need to look at your total ohm load presented to the head. That output is evenly distributed between the cabs connected (given that they are all the same ohm rating).


ETA - Just re-read your original post. You say you are playing through a 2X15 Peavey Cab. Is it an 8 ohm cab or a 4 ohm cab ?

If it is a 8 ohm cab, then each speaker is only getting 150 watts peak. They should be good. Just listen for sounds of farting/distress. Your cab will let you know if your giving it too much.
 
#22
Bass_Pounder said:
Something tells me you don't understand the output ratings.

If you are playing through SOME 8 ohm 15's - that means more than one. If you are playing through more than one (probably a pair) of 8 ohm 15" cabs, then you are already playing at 4 ohms.

Just because the amp puts out 300 watts @ 8 ohms, does not mean that every 8 ohm cab connected is getting 300 watts.

You need to look at your total ohm load presented to the head. That output is evenly distributed between the cabs connected (given that they are all the same ohm rating).


ETA - Just re-read your original post. You say you are playing through a 2X15 Peavey Cab. Is it an 8 ohm cab or a 4 ohm cab ?

If it is a 8 ohm cab, then each speaker is only getting 150 watts peak. They should be good. Just listen for sounds of farting/distress. Your cab will let you know if your giving it too much.
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yes, i really dont know much about that stuff, its true. it is a peavey 2x15 cab which reads 8ohms on the back. if i do turn it up loud i do feel that distressed sound. my friend pulled the speakers out and they are the cheapy (not scorpion or black widow speakers), in fact he said there was nothing even written on them at all. i have been looking at someone selling a peavey 4x12 bass cab rated at 4 ohms and 600 watts RMS 1200 peak for pretty cheap. i know it can handle my output but could i be able to run another single 15 cab through my other out or do i have to run 2 8ohm cabs if i was using both outputs? thanks.
 
#23
beeray said:
yes, i really dont know much about that stuff, its true. it is a peavey 2x15 cab which reads 8ohms on the back. if i do turn it up loud i do feel that distressed sound. my friend pulled the speakers out and they are the cheapy (not scorpion or black widow speakers), in fact he said there was nothing even written on them at all. i have been looking at someone selling a peavey 4x12 bass cab rated at 4 ohms and 600 watts RMS 1200 peak for pretty cheap. i know it can handle my output but could i be able to run another single 15 cab through my other out or do i have to run 2 8ohm cabs if i was using both outputs? thanks.
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That Peavey 4X12, if it is the bass model was a monster. It is a 4 ohm cab, so it can only be run by itself.

You can only run either one 4 ohm cab, or two 8 ohm cabs. Any other variation could blow your head.
 
#24
ok thanks! i will have to think about that if i decide to run one cab.

hey i have been looking at this cab this guy has been trying to sell for quite a while so i can talk him a bit down im sure, do you know anything about this and if its a good deal? i have posted the link here, thanks!

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#25
Bottom picture looks like he replaced the tweeter/horn, but that should not be an issue.

As far as I know, that is a good price.

I have never owned one, but plenty of guys here have, and they say that it is loud and pounds out the low end.

The downside is that it is very heavy.
 
#26
Running one of these through an Ampeg SVT-410 HLF.

The tone I am getting is nothing short of monstrous.

I am not quite ready to take my back up amp home yet, but I have put some serious hours on this thing already and the only issue I found is that the cooling fan is a bit loud. Otherwise, brutal for the price.
I will report back as well in regards to durability.
 
#27
paulygonemad said:
Running one of these through an Ampeg SVT-410 HLF.

The tone I am getting is nothing short of monstrous.

I am not quite ready to take my back up amp home yet, but I have put some serious hours on this thing already and the only issue I found is that the cooling fan is a bit loud. Otherwise, brutal for the price.
I will report back as well in regards to durability.
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Hey, thats awesome, funny you posted here because im picking up a slightly used svt410hlf today for 3 bills i hope so we will be using the exact same setup. glad you are happy with your tone. im sure it will sound a lot better than the peavey 2x15 setup im using now!
 
#29
Very nice. I picked up one used for about the same. That cab carries very well, I am in love. Works out great in the band I am in, which is an odd band that is a bit of a heavy, melodic prog band.

I noticed that I get some great clarity when I practice alone as well. I am a big Manring fan and always felt my tone was just too thin to pull of some of the things I was trying to do. I ended up playing through my bands PA gear, now I don't have to.

Surprised about that head as well, I really like it. Great combo.
By the way man, just as a friendly warning...
That cab is rated at 500W @ 4OHMS
The Head is rated at 550W @ 4OHMS
A great combo really, but try not to blow that cab apart. The splinters would hurt. ;)
 
#34
beeray said:
yes, it is 550w peak and the cab is 1000w peak so i think i am ok! By the way, what the bloody hell are "program" watts? anyone?
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From what I can tell, "RMS" watts is the power level that the voice coils can handle without burning up, and "program" watts are simply twice the RMS rating. In fact, this factor of two is stated by B&C Speakers on their spec sheets, and they are a reputable maker.

Also, for an idealized amplifier, the "peak" rating would be roughly twice the RMS rating. This is rarely spelled out in detail by gear makers, but I would consider it to be a rule of thumb in the absence of solid specs.

The only really trustworthy ratings are those which give an actual rating method. In addition, most speakers will fart out at power levels well below their RMS ratings.

Sorry to make it sound like a crap shoot, but that's what it is.
 
#35
Finally gigged with the bugera through my ampeg 410hlf last night.This thing really handled it quite well against a full stack and a half stack. the first practice session i had i kinda hated the 410 because i had a tough time dialing it in as i was so used to the peavey 2x15 i used before. it took almost a whole practice session for me to find my tone but once i did, i was stoked! im happy with my setup now.
 
#38
beeray said:
Hey everyone,

I have just signed up here to give you my impression of this product.

I know there has been many unanswered questions here about who has tried or owned the Bugera BVP5500. I found this site and others looking for the same answers you were before shelling out money for a fancy.....*GULP!!*....Behringer! I have read so many bad things from people who never even tried it out and are just simply bashing it because of the Behringer heritage, (trust me, I'm no Behringer fan either) but not much of that is present with this amp, well mostly.

This one you may already know is pretty much a Chinese made clone of an Ampeg SVT3 pro (my roommate just so happens to own that). I do have to say one thing, this really is the "poor mans SVT"! So far!

Unfortunately UPS dropped mine off just an hour before a had a gig last night so I didn't have any time to mess with it so I just still staged with my crappy Behringer 180 watt amp and that was a hard thing to do. Nice timing, isn't it?? NOT!

I play through a Peavy 2x15 cab and a Traben Phoenix bass (and an ESP F-104) i do have to say this thing is ROCK SOLID!! Though I have only clocked about a half hour on it so far i am way impressed!! (yes i know, i was playing a Behringer before...oh and still kinda play one now). Of course it doesn't advertise the continuous watts which is rather lame but it peaks out at 550. i do have to say this thing is as equally loud as the SVT in our house and yes my roommate is always gonna give me **** just simply because he owns the real thing. this amp just sounds truly AMAZING and seems to be built solid but with a couple complaints i will get to.

It scared the hell out of me because it went out on me but it just tripped the breaker on the power strip i was plugged into but plugging it straight in to the wall fixed that! there is a lot of tone possibilities to this and its just way LOUD! On the top is a vent showing the 4 glowing 12AX7 tubes (with the Bugera logo) and it is a solid state with a tube preamp but the valve drive knob puts out plenty of that nice warmth and i think i will leave mine to the max.

I really do dig this thing so far but my only worry is if this thing goes out during a gig or something. i will have to bring my back up to shows till i am comfortable with the reliability.I just have no idea how well this thing will hold up yet but if there are no problems, IT"S A WINNER! For 400 bucks the tone and power are way worth it! I did however leave the power on for a few hours to get the new tubes and everything used to working before i rocked out on it and i don't know if that is necessary, but to me that seems like a proper thing to do.

I bought mine through American Musical Supply on the simple payment plan at $133 a month for 3 months and for a new tube (pre) amp, it is painless.....well, almost! oh and there was a free extra year of warranty from AMS if that is still going on. if it ends up that this thing sucks before a month a can return it too.

For a amp at this price some things just got to give of course. The pots are plastic (so as the Ampeg but they seem more durable) and the knobs do have a bit of a wiggle when you test them but the rack handles should help protect them. For some reason the valve drive knob turns way easier than the others and i don't know if that is meant to be but i doubt it, but as far as everything else it feels solid and weighs heavy as hell and its similar to the SVT3. There were NO instructions whatsoever which i thought was way lame when you dish out hundreds of dollars for anything but it was very easy to figure out and you can print them online.

Well, i hope that answers any questions and good luck if you try one out too. I really don't think you will be disappointed.

Thanks, Bryan.
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This amp is so cheap... you could buy TWO and stack them on your stack, one for backup.
I just bought one and LOVE it! FAT and ROUND and Luscious!
 

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