Kiesel's lack of bass evolution

[Dr. Keebs]

Considering that Kiesel will sell you a seven-string, headless, multi-scale, single-cutaway bass with a chambered body, I don't think "lack of evolution" is much of a problem.

If they could do all that for me, plus true temperament frets in the Mothman body style, I'd go for it in an instant.

 

[armybass]

I’d just be happy if they’d be willing to fix the broken truss rod on my XB76. Or at least respond to my email.

 

[Mechayoshi]

I'm still kicking myself for missing out on some nice Carvins that popped up a while back.

Anyway on topic, Kiesel lets you do almost anything if you're willing to have a non-returnable instrument. (If I'm understanding it correctly) The examples you gave with the headless models and etc are already too weird for a lot of traditionalists to handle, so I'm not sure how much more you'd want to push it.

 

[Ric5]

Kiesel's lack of bass evolution

gotta love those fenders...right?!

and Gibson ... and Rickenbacker

 

[MCS4]

I’d just be happy if they’d be willing to fix the broken truss rod on my XB76. Or at least respond to my email.

I've gotten the impression that they don't really do those types of repairs anymore, and it was never something that they wanted to advertise in the past given the labor involved in stripping down a neck-through bass to remove the truss. If the bass is under warranty they'll usually just build a new one, and if it isn't under warranty they might begrudgingly do it if they aren't too busy but they'll charge too much for it to be worth it. I would recommend that you reach out to Martin Keith Guitars (on TB as "Keith Guitars"), since they did a great job with a truss rod replacement for my old LB70 at a fraction of what Kiesel was potentially willing to do it for.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

I’d just be happy if they’d be willing to fix the broken truss rod on my XB76. Or at least respond to my email.

They will do warranty repairs and that's about it. When you say XB76, I'm assuming that's a Carvin bass? Carvin is a different company than Kiesel and has been for a few years. They're making a much higher quality instrument now.

 

[BigBigGuy44]

Let's face it - innovation has hurt the big guys. How much did Fender, Ernie Ball and Gibson spend on research, development and tooling for the Dimension IV and V, EB4 and EB5 and redesigns, and Big Al, Gamechanger and Reflex basses only to have short production runs? Updating and tweaking existing designs is a safe way to keep products fresh without a prohibitive cost.

 

[OptimalOptimus]

Kiesel and Ibanez are pretty much at the top of innovation and modern offering

 

[retslock]

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. They still make trumpets and violins just like they always did ‘cos they work.

 

[lowfreqgeek]

I admittedly don't care for most of Keisel's offering, but I don't follow the premise of this thread.

 

[Watchootognbout]

Anyone else notice Fender's lack luster efforts to come up with new designs? The "new" models are just re-treads or re-configurations. When's the last time they introduced a new through neck model?

There! I fixed that for you!
It's obvious you meant Fender.Not Kiesel.

 

[nonohmic]

With all their models and options it's frustrating they don't offer more scale lengths. Pretty much 34" only except for the Vader at 30.

 

[2112]

Never been a big fan of Kiesel, but this looks pretty innovative and modern and I like the crap out of it.

 

[ElMon]

 

[Sixgunn]

Yeah! They need to get on the cutting edge, like Fender!

 

[micguy]

I think, if you want to take a shot at lack of innovation, the fact that this thread was started with the exact samne question aimed at Kiesel as another thread with that question aimed at Fender has to be recognized.

 

[Thundar]

Yeah...if they would only build a headless, 36" scale, fanned fret, 12 string bass with an aluminum neck I'd be all over it.

 

[Wretched Banana]

I can't see what it's gonna look like when I'm building out the options. It's just a bunch of radio buttons.

This. Kiesel offers so many options & variations well beyond the industry norms. The one innovation they desperately need is a proper web interface that makes me want to build and order something.

 

[roswell1965]

The one innovation they desperately need is a proper web interface that makes me want to build and order something.

Jeff clearly has no intention of paying an outside company to do this; perhaps he's waiting for one of his own employees to show some initiative and set that project in motion?

 

[Koshchei]

Anyone else notice Kiesel's lack luster efforts to come up with new designs? The "new" models are just headless re-treads or re-configurations. When's the last time they introduced a new through neck model?

Calling ********. Kiesel introduces tons of new models and tons of new options all the time. And the latest neck-through model is a month old.

Designing a headless guitar isn't the same as cutting off a headstock and calling it a day. It's a totally different instrument.