Lakland Owners Group #69

[Thumpinshelton]

You will not buy another bass after buying the LOG bass.....you will not buy another bass after buying the LOG bass.....haha!!! The pressure is on......very tempted myself now!!!

I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass! I'm NOT buying the LOG bass!

But I will post a pic of my #1 from a festival we played earlier this summer.

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[Thumpinshelton]

My 55-02's never disappoint!!!! Just love them!!!

 

[JEDI BASS]

I had to muster all my strength to avoid clicking "Buy it now"... I have strong feelings for that bass as it reminds me of a great time in my life, my kids were just born, I met my LOG friends, played memorable gigs with it... But I can't have more basses. I probably have more basses at home than my local Guitar Center does.

Just so you understand... Here's a video of the moment when the LOG bass arrived at my place:

That is adorable!!

 

[KevinMG]

Any word if the 44-64 Custom PJ has similar issues? I was going to get one, but don't want to go through all the current hassle I'm going through. I'm also looking at a Yamaha BBP34 or a Fender American Performer (or Ultra, if I decide to save up some more).....It'll be tough to make this decision....

On another note, I took a flashlight to the J cavities in my Fender, and the floor is lined with what looks to be copper sheets. Not the walls, just the floor. I wonder if this helps contribute to that J bass being so darn quiet. Even dirty power doesn't seem to generate much noise/buzz. I plugged in a Fender Pro ii P bass, and that was surprisingly noisy. Didn't make me feel so bad about my Lakland. The noisy poles on DJ5 are my next battle to tackle.

Thanks for all the info, folks!

The 44-64 that I bought direct as a B stock had noisy pickups. The J was noisy buzz and the P made a pop if you pressed on it. I swapped them out for Aguilars and haven’t looked back. The swap was primarily for tone preference but also because I wanted a humcanceling J. Still have the original pickups if anyone wants to buy them.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

I have a Custom 44-64 fretless and don’t recall any issues with the pickups other than the hum from the J. I switched them out for a set of Nordstrand P/J but just for the hum cancelling.

 

[nervous]

I remember those LOG basses. Nice one but I am not a P guy, don’t hate, LOL!

Yeah, me either. But if I rout a Jazz pickup in there...

 

[warptheory]

It’s log, log…

 

[oysterphish]

The 44-64 that I bought direct as a B stock had noisy pickups. The J was noisy buzz and the P made a pop if you pressed on it. I swapped them out for Aguilars and haven’t looked back. The swap was primarily for tone preference but also because I wanted a humcanceling J. Still have the original pickups if anyone wants to buy them.

So glad you said this. If I were to swap it would-be Aguilar for me, too. How do they sound in your bass? Similar to the stock? Or different?

 

[PeeeBass]

Not mine but there’s a LOG bass for sale on Reverb for a very attractive price. Please go buy it so I don’t have to!

Lakland Bob Glaub Skyline 5-String P-Bass 2010 - Butterscotch | Reverb

I want this do bad!!!! LOVED mine back in the day

 

[MaxSpinrun]

I had to muster all my strength to avoid clicking "Buy it now"... I have strong feelings for that bass as it reminds me of a great time in my life, my kids were just born, I met my LOG friends, played memorable gigs with it... But I can't have more basses. I probably have more basses at home than my local Guitar Center does.

Just so you understand... Here's a video of the moment when the LOG bass arrived at my place:

Very precious moment Marcel! Thanks for sharing that.

 

[KevinMG]

So glad you said this. If I were to swap it would-be Aguilar for me, too. How do they sound in your bass? Similar to the stock? Or different?

They’re very different. Night and day. To my ears, compared to my Fender American std with the custom shop 60s, the stock Neo P is way hotter with a low mid push that lacks some dynamics. It does overdriven rock quite naturally. I had to back off the gain on my amp to avoid clipping. The Aguilar P is a little less hot than the Fender and leans traditional. The Aguilar has that woody tone. This bass wears nickel rounds but flats would probably nail the old school perfectly.

The stock J was fine solo other than being noisy. To my ears it’s just the wrong match to the neo P. It’s not hot enough to keep up so it’s very unbalanced. There’s a noticeable volume drop off when dimed and there isn’t a lot it brings to the party until further up the volume curve. They’re just not a tonal match.

The Aguilar PJ set totally changed the bass. They are so well balanced and nuanced, it’s like they complement the playability of the neck really well, if that makes any sense. I just love playing this bass and all the tones I can get out of it. Volume wise there’s zero drop off. The humcanceling J leans traditional with some added brightness and dead quiet. I like all the subtle blended combinations the J adds along the entire volume / tone curve. And yes the J does the jaco thing well.

Sorry for the long winded explanation. The TL/DR is they changed the bass for the better and gave me exactly what I wanted. Traditional P with all sorts of other tones on tap without hum, buzz, or dramatic volume changes.

 

[Jugghaid]

I recently chatted with Steve at Lākland about this and was told the US Classic series still uses the same hardware as the Skylines. The US Classic series is also PLEKed like the Skylines. The US Series is completely hand finished in terms of frets and a lot more attention is spent on the neck. You’re basically paying for more time into the bass and US made hardware instead of licensed imported hardware. I’ve never played a US Classic. I’ve played plenty of Skylines and own a US Series 44-60. While the Skylines are awesome instruments, the US Series basses I’ve tried are some of the best feeling basses I’ve ever touched. I’d imagine the US Classics are somewhere in the middle.

I got a different answer from Leo at lakland. He said the USA classic uses all the same parts as the US series. Plek thing is correct according to him, though.

 

[Jugghaid]

And my 55-64 classic will be here this week
With a sweet roasted neck. Not big on relics, but the specs were perfect.

 

[JEDI BASS]

I got a different answer from Leo at lakland. He said the USA classic uses all the same parts as the US series. Plek thing is correct according to him, though.

The tuners on the Classics are the same as the ones on the Skylines. I remember this being discussed before, and you can see that they are if you look at images on the Lakland website.

 

[ejschultz]

I got a different answer from Leo at lakland. He said the USA classic uses all the same parts as the US series. Plek thing is correct according to him, though.

Steve was probably referring to the tuners being the Hipshot Licensed tuners vs USA made ones. I can’t see the rest of the stuff being made in different places.

The tuners on the Classics are the same as the ones on the Skylines. I remember this being discussed before, and you can see that they are if you look at images on the Lakland website.

The Classics undoubtedly share tuners with the Skylines.

 

[JEDI BASS]

Steve was probably referring to the tuners being the Hipshot Licensed tuners vs USA made ones. I can’t see the rest of the stuff being made in different places.

I could definitely see the bridges, screws, ferrules, knobs… all metal hardware… coming from an Asian source when it comes to Skylines. My understanding is that they come from Indonesia fully assembled.

As for the Classics… I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t have imported bridges and knobs, since US made hardware can cost as much as 3 times what Asian parts cost. Shoot… even good screws can set you back quite a bit!

 

[nervous]

I could definitely see the bridges, screws, ferrules, knobs… all metal hardware… coming from an Asian source when it comes to Skylines. My understanding is that they come from Indonesia fully assembled.

As for the Classics… I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t have imported bridges and knobs, since US made hardware can cost as much as 3 times what Asian parts cost. Shoot… even good screws can set you back quite a bit!

Is there really that much of a difference between the import and USA bridges? They look very similar and the import bridges are very good.

 

[JEDI BASS]

Is there really that much of a difference between the import and USA bridges? They look very similar and the import bridges are very good.

I can’t say. I’ve not had enough Skylines to know if the bridges are inferior or not.

 

[MattLplaysBass]

... even good screws can set you back quite a bit!

 

[Johnny Alien]

To the best of my knowledge (at least when the classic series was released) they used the same bridge and tuners as the Skyline series. Hipshot makes the USA stuff and whoever makes the Hipshot Lic stuff is who makes the import bridge as well. I honestly think the lic Hipshot stuff is really nice so there is no major downside if they still use that bridge on the classic line. You can tell that the screws and ferrules are the same as the USA line because they look different. You can tell if the current Classic line uses the import bridge or not by looking at the saddles. I think the skyline saddles are a dull metal vs shiny. Or its the other way around. Whichever...they are different and you should be able to verify that way. Bottom line....it doesn't really matter Hipshot makes great stuff even with the import line.