yup, you hit it Marty, it is definately a life long process to learn this genre of bass playing. not to state the obvious, but it is complicated by all the different variations that each Latin country's culture adds to it. I mean I am from New Orleans, and there is "one" New Orleans style street beat. You say that and everybody knows what you are talking about. But in Latin music, there are soooo many different variations, not to mention the complexity of the clave and the "weaving" of synchopated bass lines underneath the beautiful piano grooves. I cant believe that it took me this long to catch the fever for it. But being around real latin players is really a plus. In my band I have several Puerto Rican guys and an Ecuadorian too. None of them are bass players or drummers, they are all sax, trumpet and bone players, but I can ask anyone of them what groove I should play or what the right feel is, and they can tell me. They can even tell me who the great bass players are on most recordings that I ask about. The thing that I truly love about Latin Music is that rythm is king. These guys know bass players like we know jazz sax players. thanks for all your input on this thread guys!