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Learning to Play Reggae

After years of playing along with reggae recordings I finally found a band that needed a bass player! Luckily they are super nice about teaching me the ropes. It's a whole different thing when you are the bass player instead playing along with a great bass player. I'm looking for constructive feedback and tips for playing Reggae.

Scratch Perry said " Feel the beat even when you don't play it.....its there.......That's Reggae"

Here is the set.
 
Congrats on the band! I play in a reggae band and its really fun music on the bass. Try to listen to as much reggae as possible. There are so many good reggae bands out there. Pandora is great to get exposure to new bands. Practice playing behind the beat. Almost think of lazy playing to keep the cool mellow vibe. Also maybe Watch the Marley documentary. It explains alot of reggae culture and style. Have fun!
 
Ed Friedland has a reggae book that i hear is pretty good. I looked at it once and it went thru the different variants of reggae over the history of the style, with examples and tips. Might be worth checking out.

I have the Friedland book. Ed's written some stone classics, but frankly, this isn't one of them. This isn't "Building Reggae Bass Lines" (I'm referencing his essential "Building Walking Bass Lines" here). This is just a book of riffs. And they're wrong (deliberately, I assume). Each one says something like "in the style of I Shot The Sheriff" and there are a few wrong (yet workable) notes. I assume this is for copyright reasons. While the book does give a basic overview of the history of the music, it's not terribly in-depth. What you're left with is a compendium of mis-transcribed song fragments. Not terribly useful, IMHO.

One thing that's cool about reggae is the bass is usually very forward in the mix, so it's easy to learn the lines. And the songs are usually structurally very simple, so there's only a little bit to learn and you're jamming the whole tune. For this reason, it's relatively easy to just put on Pandora's reggae station and play along.

The feel is hard to nail. Fortvideo has it right. I also find space to be crucial, and note length crucial to the creation of that space. So pay close attention to this when learning the lines. Another piece of advice I once got: there's an almost-swing to the feel that's tough for non-Jamaicans to get right. I was once told to think of it like the feeling that you get when you lean back just a little too far in your chair, almost fall over, but catch yourself. That one breathless moment of near weightlessness is like the feel. I know that's abstract but it helped me some.

And myths aside, once you've learned some lines, you'll realize that most reggae bass lines do play on the one.
 
On a real-world practical note, reggae is a popular genre in the Ukiah area. And given the amount of weed smoked by many of the locals, I suspect most of those reggae bands sound pretty good. Not sure how good their bass players are from a "studio-technique" perspective. Then again, for the audience, it probably doesn't matter.
 
Thanks for all of the tips! My band tells me to leave space......more space........still more space. It's like there is a complete rhythm in my head but only the key notes come out through the bass. The bass is like the earth, sometimes the music needs to just float. I once heard Family Man's playing described as profoundly behind the beat.
 
My band tells me to leave space......more space........still more space. It's like there is a complete rhythm in my head but only the key notes come out through the bass.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. I like it. My concept is similar. I like to look at the spaces as part of the rhythm. You don't just play the note, you play the spaces too. And in reggae music, the bass is bottom-heavy and forward in the mix, so it's really felt. And that push and pull between the chest-punching throb of bass and the complete absence thereof, dancing together in perfect rhythm, is a big part of where the groove lies, IMHO.
 
Just started playing in my first Reggae band my self. Seems useful to think of yourself as a glorified kick drum, keeping it simple. The band is named Planet Sativa but the hell of it is, only the guitar player smokes weed and in WA state no less! Hahaha Not even the drummer, who is Jamaican smokes with me. False advertising that is heh.
 
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That recording was a P-bass with flats into an Fdeck HPF then VTbass pedal direct to the board. My band is straight edge too. Its Reggae, but definitely not Rastafarian. They are really into the Bhagavad Gita and all of the songs reflect that in one way or another. All around a very healthy positive environment.
We have a gig this Monday night at the Wonder Bar In Alston MA 40 min set at 9:30 PM. Say hi if you can make it out to the show.
 
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Awesome gig on Monday. Nice room, we set up with our 15" bass cabinet and old SWR head, which usually sound great. Then the sound guy starts setting up the house PA and pulls out 4 2x15 subs backed by ~4000watts. Then he asks me where my DI out is and i point him to my Tech21 BDDI.............................

Oh my

This place caters to the Dub Step crowd so the bass is HUGE. I had to change my playing style to let the band's sound squeak out in between the huge blobs of bass. The crowd loved it and were up dancing the whole time. I even had a few people talking to me about my bass playing and equipment after the show.

Fun Fun Fun.....................glad I had ear plugs
 
Lucky duck! (Not to mention, talented bass player!! Great playing on the Soundcloud file.) Sounds most excellent. So, what does 4000 watts through eight 15s FEEL like? What bass/pups/strings do you use for reggae mon?

EDIT: P bass with flats, check! I just re-read the post above.
 
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Thanks for the complement R&B. I've been working really hard to learn these songs. The band has been together for years so they want to hear the "right" bass line. They are starting to trust me enough to add more of me to the lines and I'm learning what makes them tick. Big spaces between the notes are necessary. Playing through that big PA was an awesome demonstration of just how much space is required when the bass is really huge in the mix.

4000 watts shakes every molecule in your body! It was really kind of shocking. when I hit a note it just pushed all of the other music out of the way. I had to be really selective when I played. Also I now know what people mean when they talk about a lot of watts giving you dynamic range. I could just brush the strings and get kind of a regular volume note, but when I dug in it would just roar. It was much louder. Usually with my set up it gets a little louder and I get a lot more overdrive when I dig in, but not the drastic change in volume.

This was totally different. Kind of like when I was a kid I had a VW GTI that I could drive anywhere with my foot to the floor. Then I drove a friends Mustang with a really big engine. If I floored it while I was on the highway it would burn rubber and spin out if i wasn't careful. The VW was fun......the Mustang required respect.
 
Thanks for the complement R&B. I've been working really hard to learn these songs. The band has been together for years so they want to hear the "right" bass line. They are starting to trust me enough to add more of me to the lines and I'm learning what makes them tick. Big spaces between the notes are necessary. Playing through that big PA was an awesome demonstration of just how much space is required when the bass is really huge in the mix.

4000 watts shakes every molecule in your body! It was really kind of shocking. when I hit a note it just pushed all of the other music out of the way. I had to be really selective when I played. Also I now know what people mean when they talk about a lot of watts giving you dynamic range. I could just brush the strings and get kind of a regular volume note, but when I dug in it would just roar. It was much louder. Usually with my set up it gets a little louder and I get a lot more overdrive when I dig in, but not the drastic change in volume.

This was totally different. Kind of like when I was a kid I had a VW GTI that I could drive anywhere with my foot to the floor. Then I drove a friends Mustang with a really big engine. If I floored it while I was on the highway it would burn rubber and spin out if i wasn't careful. The VW was fun......the Mustang required respect.

I play along in my man cave. Let me say I don't know what I'm doing, so what I have to say means nothing. :thumbsup:

Listen to this. Its updated weekly and they have the last two weeks shows online at anytime.
http://kdhx.org/play/radio-shows/positive-vibrations
This radio station has a few other reggae shows, but start with this one. they find a lot of all obscure stuff that sounds great.

I play along, and make up my own bass lines as I go. It sounds good in the mix, but not so much without it. :woot:
 
Frik I was so ready for it mon and de friggen site reqires flash... Dat so sucks from de ipad... I been duppy conquerored...

Listening to your soundcloud clip. Sweeet! You are a lucky man to hook up with that!

The only real advice I can provide is that you and the drummer need to be able to complete each others sentences like an old married couple... There is simply no substitute short of brilliance for logging the hours. IMO it's more about give and less about take... Or maybe that's another way to say space...
 
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After years of playing along with reggae recordings I finally found a band that needed a bass player! Luckily they are super nice about teaching me the ropes. It's a whole different thing when you are the bass player instead playing along with a great bass player. I'm looking for constructive feedback and tips for playing Reggae.

Scratch Perry said " Feel the beat even when you don't play it.....its there.......That's Reggae"

Here is the set.


Lucky you. I played in a roots reggae band for many years and I would LOVE to find another...there just aren't that many in my neck of the woods. Heck, there aren't even that many musicians that either know how to play reggae, or are willing to do so. If you know any roots men in New Jersey tell them to hit me up!