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Let hear your Electronica, D'n'B, or Dub, Experimental Electronic Band.

This is my one and only attempt to revive this thread.
I must say I have been pleased with the quality of posts:D, but quite disappointed by the quantity:crying:.
Perhaps the likes of John Davis can be cohersed into making some inspirational clips;). (How is that LFO Mod Box BTW?)
I am also surprised no Dub bands posted yet.
Alas, perhaps this thread is destined to die young.:scowl:
 
This is my one and only attempt to revive this thread.
I must say I have been pleased with the quality of posts:D, but quite disappointed by the quantity:crying:.

Definitely agree on both counts. I can't add anything because while I dig this kind of stuff a lot, it's not something I've ever tried other than as a Radiohead/Flaming Lips/DJ Shadow type accent to a song. Still, I hope more people post as I'm really enjoying the music. rnilson, your band's stuff in particular is REALLY good. Kudos.

I am also surprised no Dub bands posted yet.

It's been quite a while but I've heard some very good modern dub stuff from TBers. I want to say MadSubWoofer posted some really cool clips a few years back. Maki recently posted a song his dub band was working on, but it was much more old school dub style. Still, PM him to post it. And Stu Brooks is a TBer. It's pretty easy to hear his stuff. Just go to Invalid Link Removed I don't think it plays on their site, but "Casting Out the Nines" is one of my favorites of theirs.
 
rnilson, your band's stuff in particular is REALLY good. Kudos.
Wow thanks TheBigO,
The Fuse is kinda my baby right now. The band is not exactly where I want it yet, but it is getting there. It is my first foray into band leader.
It is kinda fun, but stressful. I have learned so much about writing music, programming beats, and expressing my musical vision to others.
The big challenge is teaching our DJ/ Sound Guy how to improvise with others, and the jazz guys how to play electronic sounding music.
When we get the record together everyone on TB who wants it gets a free download. You guys have really helped me get a bass sound together.:bassist:

I personally think that Merlinaz's Boogiesonic is a quite exceptional group.

John, would your recording be all bass or do you program and play other instruments? Really interested in The Nerve album.

The Dub Trio is a little too rockish for my taste (at least what I have heard), but there is a band from France called Kaly Live Dub. That blows it up check this:
 
Hey Guys,
So a lot of us talk on this forum about how to achieve that perfect D'n'B, Dub, or Experimental Electronic bass sound but, besides TaySte (who has a ton of bad ass clips here) and the OS madness going on I haven't heard a lot of your sounds. So lets hear them!
I'll start.
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This is my newest band I have put together. It is a nu-jazz/dub/d'n'b thing.
Look forward to your clips!:bassist:

gotta say, that stuff is amazing!!!

Conor
 
It is kinda fun, but stressful. I have learned so much about writing music, programming beats, and expressing my musical vision to others.
The big challenge is teaching our DJ/ Sound Guy how to improvise with others, and the jazz guys how to play electronic sounding music.

I could definitely see that being tough. It's not much different from trying to take a classically or jazzed trained pianist and work them into a rock band. Very unfamiliar to them and requires a lot of give and take. Personally, I like the organic quality of the trumpet over the electronic drums and synthy bass. You don't want to reign him in too much IMO.

When we get the record together everyone on TB who wants it gets a free download. You guys have really helped me get a bass sound together.:bassist:

I will remember that.:bassist:

The Dub Trio is a little too rockish for my taste (at least what I have heard), but there is a band from France called Kaly Live Dub. That blows it up check this:
is all ambient style dub.

Personally I really dig dub (both modern, electronic stuff and old Mad Professor, Sly & Robbie etc stuff) as well as d'n'b and a lot of electronic music in general. The trick for me is how to integrate some of those elements into the album my guitar player and I are writing as a side project (a) without losing "our" sound and (b) not having it sound cheesy. It's proving tougher than I thought.

One thing I wish I could do is program electronic drums. We were just talking today about doing something like Smashing Pumpkin's "1979" or Radiohead's "15 Step" where electronic beats mix with live drums. Any advice on how to get started?

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A question tho: Would you consider an Om like setup as D'n'B, even if its doom...

Like metal, electronica annoys me a bit in its endless sub categorization (black, death, math metal vs dub step, break core, downtempo etc) but D'n'B as a whole is pretty easy to classify. To me it's all about high tempo, breakbeat drums and grooving, synthy sub bass, both of which are usually electronic. I also think of the bass as being slow until a break hits where it gets faster and busier. You should also hear the Amen break in every song, even if you don't want to.;)

The term drum & bass is about style, not instrumentation. Personally, I'm not sure when or why it stopped being called Jungle, but again, I'm not big on categorizing music.
 
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A question tho: Would you consider an Om like setup as D'n'B, even if its doom...

Example:

For examples I recommend:
Old School/Original Sound: Photek, Dillinja, Plug, Omni Trio, Aphex Twin

What I am personally listening to now: Bogdan Razinski, We, Venetian Snares, Chris Clark, and always, always, always older Squarepusher stuff.:bassist: I think every bassist should own Ultravisitor!
 
One thing I wish I could do is program electronic drums. We were just talking today about doing something like Smashing Pumpkin's "1979" or Radiohead's "15 Step" where electronic beats mix with live drums. Any advice on how to get started?

Can your drummer hang with a click track? I have been surprised at how many can't.
Programming is more of a time commitment thing than a difficulty issue. My upright chops are hurting right now due to all the time I have spent staring at a computer screen. One track on our demo is like 10 hours + of programing for me. (I have got to get more efficient and less OCD:rollno:.)
Some questions you need to consider:
1.) Do you want to use hardware or a computer program?
2.) Do you want to program from scratch or sample?
3.) How much variation in the drum track do you want in the programmed drum line? (4,8,16, 32 bars repeating etc..)
4.) Do you want the beat to conform to the band (tap tempo) or do you want the band to conform to the beat?

If you want to do the "Radiohead" thing it can be done lots of ways. They usually have a very simple loops. They do have top notch sounds though. That is very important for simple loops! When I saw them live this fall it seemed that either Jonny or Phil were triggering the loops and then they band "plays along" with it. For that I would get a sampler or MPC with a floor midi trigger. Perhaps the boss SP404.

Probably way more info than you wanted. Let me know If you have more specific questions.
 
I recorded this song after listening to Portishead for too many hours...


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Wow, This is why I put up this thread!
Who knew that our local fuzz master was such a talented song smith also!
Great Stuff grygrx! You really should persue this more! It would not be hard to achieve this with a band live. If you do get it together let me know and we can do a show in KC.
What program did you use for the drums. The samples with very clean.
 
Wow, This is why I put up this thread!
Who knew that our local fuzz master was such a talented song smith also!
Great Stuff grygrx! You really should persue this more! It would not be hard to achieve this with a band live. If you do get it together let me know and we can do a show in KC.
What program did you use for the drums. The samples with very clean.

Blush.... thanks guys. I'm actually pretty new to song writing, and trying to be a 'multi-instrumentalist'.

Drums are stock garage band kits. Sometimes I use basic ones, sometimes I 'mod them up'.

I have a couple of others that fall close to genre.

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oh and this is me singing too... lol..
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rnilson, thanks for the advice re: electronic drums. Yes, our drummer can hang with a click track. He's really a talented drummer in a lot of ways but is a bit selfish musically. He doesn't want to do electronic drums and has a tendency of being overly busy.

So for this project, it's just my guitar player and I writing stuff with the idea of bringing in one of the drummers we know much later in the process. We really just want to record an album. Gigging the songs live would be gravy, but not a goal.

grygrx, nice stuff. Don't be too self-conscious about your singing. It's not bad, and really makes it possible to do "one man" songwriting if you're willing to sing.

The tough part (if you ever wanted to gig) at least IMO is learning to sing and play. It took me a LOT of practice just to do it with simple things. I wish I was better at it because while I think I'm a pretty decent bassist, I'm a much better singer, to the point where I've played in bands as a frontman with another guy playing bass. Ideally, I'd like to be able to do both.

And to get this thread somewhat back on topic, here's an interesting fact. I was reading an old interview yesterday (sucks to be totally sick while on a day off) where Flea said the main bassline to "Invalid Link Removed" was something he wrote after coming home from a d'n'b club.