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*LIFE CHANGING MP3 HERE*Jamerson tracks isolated..what a TONE!...foam or palm muting?
- Thread starter quadrogong
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smiley wasn't big enough...
So Chuck is one of the new guys who is 100x better that you mentioned earlier?
LOL (there's no appropriate smiley this time).
I have ears... sue me.
Gloves are off (are you ready?):
1) Dude was a drunk
2) Dude played a beat-up piece-o-shinola P-bass with action as high as the sun
3) Dude had terrible tone
4) Dude played with one finger
For a one-fingered, drunken, bass-beating, half-deaf man...
Mr. James Jamerson kicked BUTT! Not bad at all for a man with some serious handicaps
Wow, you really let him have it. No doubt you prefer techno-teetotallers with nice shiny basses who play with 11 fingers.
Seriously...
I'm focused on the music. You OTOH are focused on what you deem important. Knock yourself out.
My opinion is stuck to me hard...don't think you can pull it off me
I never try to separate a dog from it's love object. Hump away.
BTW...I totally agree with you about JJ's sense of timing...there's never been one better.
No... only 100x better.
Name a Chuck performance that exhibits the next level of which you speak? I'm genuinely curious about this.
I'm a big CR fan. I'm drawing a blank.
jamerson did have terrible technique
did play a terribly setup bass
didnt change strings
was still the master of timing and balls for note selection
he defines groove to me and young punks better sit down and understand that
did play a terribly setup bass
didnt change strings
was still the master of timing and balls for note selection
he defines groove to me and young punks better sit down and understand that
Hey Brad,
I think I actually got this notion after hearing Will Lee cite Rainey as his biggest influence (along with Jamerson and Paul McCartney) here:
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Go to Bass Player Live! 2004 "Q&A with Will Lee" Parts 2 & 3. Will demonstrates the Rainey lick that first got his attention and makes a case for Rainey building on Jamerson's legacy. It convinced me enough to revisit my Steely Dan collection with new ears.
BTW, Will replaced Chuck in the band Dreams when he first came to NY but didn't know who he was until he later heard his playing on the radio. If you're a CR fan, you'll enjoy hearing the story.
Peace,
Michael
I'm a huge CR and SD fan, got all of the performances burned into memory
. Loved Chuck's work with the ton of other artists (especially Aretha Franklin). I just hear Jamerson doing stuff, note choice and timing-wise, that to this day is still cool as heck. And he did it a bunch of times. It wasn't so much a lick as an entire body of work. I've always loved Chuck's doublestops, haven't seen that video but I'd guess it might involve that
I'm a huge CR and SD fan, got all of the performances burned into memory
I've always loved Chuck's doublestops, haven't seen that video but I'd guess it might involve that
No argument that Jamerson was a one-of-a-kind genius. Like Charlie Parker or any other true original, nobody has ever "out-Jamersoned" Jamerson, IMHO. And as much fun as it is to dissect and analyze what he did (Anthony Jackson's essay in SITSOM, for instance), I agree it's his whole body of work that really impresses. As many have pointed out, he didn't just do the same thing over and over. He was able to get inside each song and give it exactly what was needed to make it memorable. All the surprising note choices and timing were in service to the music, not the "look at what I can do!" approach of so many current bass gods.
I only mentioned Rainey because he does come to my mind (YMMV) as someone who built upon the expanded possibilities that JJ opened up for the role of the bass in modern popular music, especially in his use of double stops and upper register fills. Of course, many others have done the same, but Rainey has always struck me as another one of those (like Jamerson) whose contributions on all those classic recordings were so elegant because they didn't so much draw attention to the bass but rather to the music.
Jamerson was what he was. He had an incredible gift, had very strong ideas about his music, and was pretty much uncompromising in it, rejecting violently the things he didn't like. He and others like him, who have unusual talent, should all be some help and inspiration to those others of us (like myself) who aren't as talented. I physically am not strong enough in the hands to play the way he did. I have to find my own way. His music is a delight, an inspiration and a challenge for me personally, and I'm glad his body of work continues after him for all those reasons.
I'm a big Jamerson fan, but I've always felt that his tone sounded like a dull, flabby, tuneless fart, and these mp3s make that painfully obvious. It's kinda sad that such a brilliant player didn't have a decent, properly setup instrument.
Debased...old chap.....everyone is painfully aware of your complete disdain for Fender basses, but why you feel the need to constantly share that with everyone, is completely beyond me.
Anyway...I have to disagree with you and say that there is nothing dull, flabby, tuneless OR flatulent about JJ's tone.
