Light stack with enough height

[Beano_z]

Hi mightly TB, I'm struggling with a question for which I can't find any straight forward answers though the "search" function.

I'm trying to decide on a purchase for a rig to be put into my (to be built) rehearsal space and for some future gigging where I have to bring my own amps.

The problem with me is, I have some back problems, so fridges are out of the question. However, with smaller cabs, I always have the same problem with volume. And I've found out that it's not the actualy volume of the amp, it's more the projection. Because I'm always standing quite close to my rig, I feel the sound is always being projected in front, but not towards where I can hear it better.

But since I want to go light, I'm thinking perhaps two of those 1x12 or 2x12 cabs stacked vertically on top of each other would help this problem? But due to the fact I live in HK, I only have easy access to certain brands (I'd love to get some Bergantino stuff, but shipping from the US would probably cost more than the cab itself).

1) TC Electronics - two 2x12's
2) Aguilar - two SL112's
3) Markbass - don't know which option yet
4) Trace Elliot - don't know which option yet

So keeping with these brands, what do you guys recommend? I prefer warm and punchy sounding amps.

 

[Epitaph04]

You can always just prop up the amp on a chair, or stool of some sort.

 

[Davyo]

The new GK combos and passive cabs are very light and stack nicely.

Cheers
Davyo

 

[Beano_z]

You can always just prop up the amp on a chair, or stool of some sort.

Never really tried this as I'm always fearing that the cab isn't transferring enough vibrations to the floor, I could be wrong though...

 

[Beano_z]

The new GK combos and passive cabs are very light and stack nicely.

Cheers
Davyo

GK is hard to get here in HK, I've basically listed my only options in terms of brands for which I can get good service and the complete range of products as legit imports (I don't want grey imports as they will have issues with warranty and such).

 

[CL400Peavey]

I hope you find something that works for you. This is how I got my light weight vertical stack.


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The plans for these cabs are free, you would just have to source a local builder. I would pair them with an Aguilar TH500.

 

[Beano_z]

I hope you find something that works for you. This is how I got my light weight vertical stack.


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The plans for these cabs are free, you would just have to source a local builder. I would pair them with an Aguilar TH500.

Yes, funny thing is I was just starting to read about fearful these days, very intriguing concept indeed. Might think about building it myself, because with the labor cost level in HK, I'd be better off getting it sent over from the US I guess.

I guess you don't have any issues hearing (and feeling) yourself at rehearsal and on stage?

 

[CL400Peavey]

Yes, funny thing is I was just starting to read about fearful these days, very intriguing concept indeed. Might think about building it myself, because with the labor cost level in HK, I'd be better off getting it sent over from the US I guess.

I guess you don't have any issues hearing (and feeling) yourself at rehearsal and on stage?

No issues at all. One of these cabs is pretty oustanding with my PF-500 (350 watts at 8 Ohms), two is killer. To be clear these cabs do not need a ton of power to get loud, they can handle a lot of power though. If I was sourcing partf for a rig like this in HK, I would look to building a single 15/6 first (if the weight works out for you, light weight ply and good bracing is your friend), and for my tastes I would pair it with a Ampeg PF-800 or an orange TB500. That combination will get truly and amazingly loud for the size/weight of the rig as a whole.

 

[TOOL460002]

I too have chronic back issues, so I put my 410 off to the side and bought a 4u ska rolling rack (has wheels and a handle that folds out). I use Schroeder cabs. They make light models that also have wheels and a fold out handle. I would give them a look, even though they aren't on your list.

 

[ga_edwards]

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Keeps your cab on the floor where it 'feels' good but points it up and out. Was the missing link for me!

 

[willydee]

Those tc electronic rigs are very light and when arranged as pictured provide good hight. Sound nice too.

 

[Rockin Mike]

I run a pair of Markbass Traveler 102Ps stacked vertically.
They are very light at 33 pounds each so I can carry one in each hand.
I think they sound great!

If I want to tilt them up I just put piece of wood under the front edge.

 

[AlexanderB]

I would check if you can get EBS where you live.
The EBS Pro Line and Neo Line speakers have interlocking corners and stack very well IME. A pair of Neo Line 210 will be articulate and loud with the right amp. 19 kg each - not super light but not heavy either. The HF horn in these is also noticably better than the Foster / Fostex horn used by GK, Ampeg, SWR, Fender etc.

 

[youngdog4]

another one to give a look at is the genz benz shuttle series. i play the shuttle 6.2 with the extension cabinet. the thing surprised me with how huge the sound is. way bigger than my old ampeg rig.

 

[WingKL]

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[nutdog]

The TC rig looks like it would meet all of your requirements.

 

[MrLenny1]

My buddy uses two 2x12 cabs stacked vertically.
The sound dispersion from 50 ft back is awesome
and great for his ears also.

 

[EastCoastThump]

You have back problems, and you get enough volume from your small cab, but just need to hear it better?

In that case a second cab seems like a bulky and expensive amp stand. Lifting your cab w/ a stand almost always makes it *seem* less bassy if you're standing close to it. However, if you're worried about the loss of floor coupling I'd recommend using a wireless to audition your cab from audience distance. You should find that the tonal difference b/w cab-on-floor and cab-on-stand is much less noticeable once you're not standing on top of the cab. (That is to say, putting your cab on a stand doesn't make a big difference to the tone the audience hears, but it makes a huge difference in intelligibility for the player on a cramped stage.)

BTW, if I were building a rehearsal space as you are, I'd think about putting in a low ledge or set of cabinets to raise backline amps up closer to players' ears. I've rehearsed at a few facilities with this feature, and it really helps volume-mad guitarists rein themselves in.

 

[lomo]

Put a fEarful 12/6 or a 210 or 212 of choice up on a stand.

 

[Gougedeye]

From time to time I use a TC RH750 and 2 TC 2X10 stacked vertically and it works just fine for what you need. the head needs to be tweeked to suit your needs, but over all this is a nice versitile and light stack.