Light stack with enough height

[M. Owen Santy]

Although I'm old school big loud heavy manly gear - I'm told that the TC solution if actually a great little solution.

 

[Beano_z]

No issues at all. One of these cabs is pretty oustanding with my PF-500 (350 watts at 8 Ohms), two is killer. To be clear these cabs do not need a ton of power to get loud, they can handle a lot of power though. If I was sourcing partf for a rig like this in HK, I would look to building a single 15/6 first (if the weight works out for you, light weight ply and good bracing is your friend), and for my tastes I would pair it with a Ampeg PF-800 or an orange TB500. That combination will get truly and amazingly loud for the size/weight of the rig as a whole.

I like the idea of the PF-800 as well, though I haven't figured out a place where I can try the amp.

 

[Philonius]

(Below pic of CL400Peavy's 2x fEarful 12/6/1 stack)

I guess you don't have any issues hearing (and feeling) yourself at rehearsal and on stage?

Not much.

 

[Beano_z]

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Keeps your cab on the floor where it 'feels' good but points it up and out. Was the missing link for me!

I was thinking of this as well after I saw Jeff Berlin jam with two of his signature 15 combo's. But it got me confused now, I'm not sure whether it the fact that the amps I'm using aren't loud enough or that they're just badly positioned.

But the funny thing is on several gigs and rehearsals I have used an Ampeg 8x10 with a SVT 3 Pro, and it just wouldn't cut it.

Problem with me is, I have a habit of needing to 'feel' the bass in my chest in order to feel good about the sound and that's exactly what I miss in many rigs. I'm just wondering whether any of those smaller rigs can create that effect.

 

[Beano_z]

I run a pair of Markbass Traveler 102Ps stacked vertically.
They are very light at 33 pounds each so I can carry one in each hand.
I think they sound great!

If I want to tilt them up I just put piece of wood under the front edge.

Yeah, I think this is one of the options I'm going to try out here. Which amp do you use? Would the SD 1200 be overkill?

 

[dukeorock]

Yeah, I think this is one of the options I'm going to try out here. Which amp do you use? Would the SD 1200 be overkill?

No! But I like high powered amps

 

[Beano_z]

You have back problems, and you get enough volume from your small cab, but just need to hear it better?

In that case a second cab seems like a bulky and expensive amp stand. Lifting your cab w/ a stand almost always makes it *seem* less bassy if you're standing close to it. However, if you're worried about the loss of floor coupling I'd recommend using a wireless to audition your cab from audience distance. You should find that the tonal difference b/w cab-on-floor and cab-on-stand is much less noticeable once you're not standing on top of the cab. (That is to say, putting your cab on a stand doesn't make a big difference to the tone the audience hears, but it makes a huge difference in intelligibility for the player on a cramped stage.)

BTW, if I were building a rehearsal space as you are, I'd think about putting in a low ledge or set of cabinets to raise backline amps up closer to players' ears. I've rehearsed at a few facilities with this feature, and it really helps volume-mad guitarists rein themselves in.

You're right, I'm wondering as well. I've felt a lack of power using an 8x10 and SVT 3 Pro, but have been very satisfied using an old Trace 250W head on top of two 4x10 with only the top one connected. so this all points towards the fact that I need to raise the cabinet to chest level to get the feel I like. As for the ampstand, I just figured it'll never hurt to get an extra speaker, just in case.

 

[Beano_z]

From time to time I use a TC RH750 and 2 TC 2X10 stacked vertically and it works just fine for what you need. the head needs to be tweeked to suit your needs, but over all this is a nice versitile and light stack.

I guess this rig can also cover smaller gig's pretty well, right? Do you have any experience with the TC 2x12 compared to the 2x10?

 

[arai]

Hi mightly TB, I'm struggling with a question for which I can't find any straight forward answers though the "search" function.

I'm trying to decide on a purchase for a rig to be put into my (to be built) rehearsal space and for some future gigging where I have to bring my own amps.

The problem with me is, I have some back problems, so fridges are out of the question. However, with smaller cabs, I always have the same problem with volume. And I've found out that it's not the actualy volume of the amp, it's more the projection. Because I'm always standing quite close to my rig, I feel the sound is always being projected in front, but not towards where I can hear it better.

But since I want to go light, I'm thinking perhaps two of those 1x12 or 2x12 cabs stacked vertically on top of each other would help this problem? But due to the fact I live in HK, I only have easy access to certain brands (I'd love to get some Bergantino stuff, but shipping from the US would probably cost more than the cab itself).

1) TC Electronics - two 2x12's
2) Aguilar - two SL112's
3) Markbass - don't know which option yet
4) Trace Elliot - don't know which option yet

So keeping with these brands, what do you guys recommend? I prefer warm and punchy sounding amps.

The tc rig ticks all your boxes. Warm and punchy is exactly how I would describe it

 

[nostatic]

Baer ML112 cabs have nice height on their sides (and they come with feet to accommodate). 37 lbs, a pair will cover pretty much any gig

 

[Gougedeye]

I guess this rig can also cover smaller gig's pretty well, right? Do you have any experience with the TC 2x12 compared to the 2x10?

It really can cover all gigs. This rig can get plenty loud! I don't have any experience with the TC 2X12, although the Rep told me, the 2X12 is a great choice and the one he prefers. Another small light weight rig I forgot to mention is the Fender Rumble series. I also have the Rumble 350 head and the 2X8 and 1X12 cabs. That little set up, to me, is pretty damn cool! I know, the Rumble series has its haters, but for me, it has performed flawlessly. You don't get a ton of features, but I like the tone I get with mine. It will also get plenty loud, when needed. And the whole set up comes in just over 50lbs! Easy in and easy out.