Line 6 - Have we lost our minds!

[s0c9]

Shoot.. been using my G90 for BOTH guitar and bass for 4+ yrs now... hundreds of gigs and no issues.
I'd but another L6 wireless unit in a heartbeat... while their wireless stuff my be considered premium, I sure wouldn't consider their entire product line anywhere close to that... and yes, I've owned a fair bit of their stuff, but not since I moved to Fractal.

 

[Haji]

Something to consider: If Billy is getting his gear for free, why isn't he using the most expensive, top of that line rack mount unit? He's using the same gear he's been using for a long, long time.

The guitar player in my band finally got tired of being tethered to his amp and has come to the dark side with me. We're both running the G30, and they work fine together.

 

[Bredian]

One of the reasons I use a G30 instead of a rack mounted unit .... is I avoided the rack. My 10 lb head is in a soft rack, a shoulder strap carry. My pedal board carries the rest, also shoulder strap carried. My current 450 RMS rated Neo 210 is 50.3 lbs... is a one hander and the two basses in soft cases fit in the other or on my back. I could carry 100% of my gear needed in a single trip if needed. I can also plug into any back line without worrying about loops. ..... and it was on sale for $199

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Geez, I wouldn't quite call it premium or lower end.. The Line 6 is a very workable wireless solution, at least until they start competing with other wifi devices, and so far, I seem to be the only one around that's had to deal with that. and I did successfully.

When I think of premium RF, I think of Lectrosonics. I paid $2100 for the transmitter and receiver for my bass and it sounds as every bit as good as a cable. I don't suggest that for everyone, mind you. But besides sound, I wanted the robust RF performance of the Lectro stuff, which is industrial-strength stuff and used by nearly all of the national broadcast companies fore their various wireless needs. It wasn't cheap. That's why I'm still driving an old pickup with 300,000 miles on it (which, thankfully, is still running really well and the air works, too!). I do need to look into the Fractal stuff, I've been hearing about it a lot lately. (EDIT: Does Fractal make RF gear for guitars and basses? I'm not seeng it on the website)

Having said all of that, with so many satisfied users of the Line 6 stuff (and we see a lot of it being used by players with national acts, too), it must be quite good.

Excellent point. A lot of the gear blabbered about on Talk Bass is really low-to-middle range compared to the top shelf truly pro-sound gear. Different ballgame than the one played by bedroom and weekend gigsters.

 

[walterw]

Excellent point. A lot of the gear blabbered about on Talk Bass is really low-to-middle range compared to the top shelf truly pro-sound gear. Different ballgame than the one played by bedroom and weekend gigsters.

yeah, just like @Geri O mentioned with the $2k lectrosonics stuff that schlubs like me will probably never even lay eyes on.

 

[Geri O]

yeah, just like @Geri O mentioned with the $2k lectrosonics stuff that schlubs like me will probably never even lay eyes on.

Gear like the Lectro stuff is why I was...WAS...driving the aforementioned 1999 Ford pickup with 306,000 miles on it. No car payments!

That changed a week ago. The truck finally died (actually, it gave me the finger and said "I'm done". I swear!...). I now have a Nissan Armada and a car note to match. Arghh. I wish the truck would have held on until I bought a REDDI!... So my GAS has been curtailed somewhat.

 

[walterw]

Gear like the Lectro stuff is why I was...WAS...driving the aforementioned 1999 Ford pickup with 306,000 miles on it. No car payments!

That changed a week ago. The truck finally died (actually, it gave me the finger and said "I'm done". I swear!...

we should always mourn the passing of a good pickup truck

 

[paulears]

Sennheiser in the UK are very popular - for quite a few years the price was pretty well £400, then G3 came along and it became £500. I have both and really don't see any difference in practical everyday usage. My first Line 6 system was £400 (a 70 series) then the 75 series came along at ..... £500.

It's simply what price point the market will stand. I bought a system for my bass, and it sounds fine - but does have a plastic box. It was cheaper, and I mustn't stand on it. Very rarely are we talking audio quality improvements for the latest price hike - just gadgets, gizmos and extra bells and whistles.

 

[Dilligas]

Another satisfied G30 user here! For a $200 unit I'd say it has pretty good range. I'm building a studio in the basement & almost done. I wanted to here the difference since sound proofing so I turned on the bass amp & went upstairs to play & (A) was pleased with the reduction of sound & (B) very happy with the G30 not breaking up while walking around the 1st floor.

 

[Bassworship1]

I have owned 2 different G30 sets and the G90 and I have to say the G30 is everything I need it to be. Has always been dependable and we gig 3-4 times a week. I love my Line 6 gear.

 

[FuturePrimitive]

I like the G70, I think it comes pretty close to what I would like on my pedalboard. Specifically, the ability to simplify and replace multiple pedals. However, I'm a little confused by the DI implementation on this. Shouldn't the DI be last thing in your signal chain? Without an effects loop on the G70 if you add just one effect doesn't that render the DI on this useless? Am I missing something?

 

[walterw]

Shouldn't the DI be last thing in your signal chain? Without an effects loop on the G70 if you add just one effect doesn't that render the DI on this useless? Am I missing something?

yep, and therefore nope. It makes sense if you're a "no pedals" bass player or your soundguy has browbeat you into giving him a pre-everything DI signal, that's about it.

 

[Sixgunn]

Excellent point. A lot of the gear blabbered about on Talk Bass is really low-to-middle range compared to the top shelf truly pro-sound gear. Different ballgame than the one played by bedroom and weekend gigsters.

I don't see your point. $200.00 to me, for something that works great is better (and smarter) than $2000.00 for something that works great.

 

[Johnny Crab]

Line 6 G50 works in Ciudad del Carmen, Mexico in their "marina" auditorium.
The provided FOH's Wi-Fi'ed-to-EYE-PAD controller didn't bother it.

 

[Bredian]

yep, and therefore nope. It makes sense if you're a "no pedals" bass player or your soundguy has browbeat you into giving him a pre-everything DI signal, that's about it.

When he talks the guitarist into a "pre" .... we'll open that discussion..... about the 60s.

 

[Barisaxman]

I like the G70, I think it comes pretty close to what I would like on my pedalboard. Specifically, the ability to simplify and replace multiple pedals. However, I'm a little confused by the DI implementation on this. Shouldn't the DI be last thing in your signal chain? Without an effects loop on the G70 if you add just one effect doesn't that render the DI on this useless? Am I missing something?

While another had mentioned it as a "pre everything" option, most likely this serves a much better purpose for acoustic guitar players, who generally would also be going straight to the PA from the wireless rather than to any other pedals.

 

[Munjibunga]

Excellent point. A lot of the gear blabbered about on Talk Bass is really low-to-middle range compared to the top shelf truly pro-sound gear. Different ballgame than the one played by bedroom and weekend gigsters.

If a G50 works perfectly for so many people (as mine does), I don't see what relevance the "high-end" issue has. It's a lot like buying high-end basses - the ROI starts to fall off after a certain price point. You may feel better with the higher-priced unit, but you may be spending a lot of money needlessly. My $350 G50 outperforms my former $650 Shure ULXS system. (I know the ULXS is not Shure's high-end system, but just sayin'.)

 

[Pilbromatic]

Hi all, so I'm looking into getting the G70 in a few weeks. I've just read quite a bit about dropout issues online - since the firmware update it seems that half of the owners are now happy and the other half are still complaining. I figure if you have your phone or Wi-Fi router etc nearby then they would probably cause interference. Presuming that some of you are now G70 owners, are you able to give me some reliable feedback on your findings? Thanks!

 

[Barisaxman]

I've been on either G50 or G90 for many years with no major issue, but as 2.4 Ghz wireless gets more and more crowded (and my band has begun using 2.4 ghz routers for wireless mixing) my range for reliable operation has gone down. I'm looking at switching the FOH for the band to 5 Ghz routers, but that doesn't solve for pretty much every club having wifi available to customers and causing more RF interference than in the past. Finding clear (enough) channels is getting to be more challenging as we've got 4 total units among the band (bass, two guitars, one vocal).