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Little Mark II Problem...

All I'm asking for is a reasonable explanation, not sarcasm. And no, I'm not sure an arc is possible with a speakon connector when each contact point inside the connector is insulated from each other.
Wrong - not an arc across the points, but rather an arc OF the points between the contact in the connectors. But I am not arguing, or being sarcastic - continue to do it.
 
Wrong - not an arc across the points, but rather an arc OF the points between the contact in the connectors. But I am not arguing, or being sarcastic - continue to do it.

I'm just not following this explanation. The contact points in the speakon connectors are fully isolated from each other. I just don't seeing any "arc" happening. Just to make it clear, I feel I have a reasonable understanding of these things, but I don't feel the need to explain myself any further than that. What are your assumptions of this based on?

From Neutrik's website:

What is a Speakon connector and what is it used for used for?

The Speakon connectors are designed for highest mechanical and electrical loads and fulfil all safety standards. They are used to transmit high currents which occur for example at amplifier - loudspeakers lines. Due to the its mating mechanism arcing is prevented and human touch can not happen. The Speakon connectors are UL-recognized and CSA-listed.
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And your suggestion of "continue to do it", if you really think it is bad, why would you wish that I continue to do it? If this isn't being argumentative or sarcastic, then again, I must be misunderstanding you.
 
Roscoe, that's a great service story so far.

In re: issues,

In Canada they've been on sale for a lot longer than in the US. Even longer in Europe. Let's keep that in mind too.

There are two dealers I know of in Canada (there may be more now), one of which is somewhat local to me. It's a nice store run by a guy who has a lot of experience in electronics and amp repair. I can't recall if he would work on MB or not in case of failure - I know he's "authorized" to toggle the jumpers at least - but he has every confidence in them, uses them himself, and reported zero failures when I asked him several months ago. And he's sold a lot - he can seldom keep them in stock, especially now that so much product for North America is diverted to the States.

One of those rigs was sold to a major backline rentals company for major label acts and it still works fine. I can't say for sure it's never required repair, but I still see it in use so it can't be a hassle for them to provide it since in part their reputation and future repeat business is on the line (the backline rental company, I mean).

I've run into a surprising number of players - pros - that have MB amps and combos and they've all totally raved about them and they sound great. When I ask, I expect them to say something like "yeah, it's ok - I like that it's tiny ..." and instead the answers have all been a very loud and enthusiastic "I love it !" or "Markbass ####### rocks man !!!". Again, actual pros gigging on DB and electric. They've never heard of Talkbass so they can't be here to report, but some do exist. And I can't have run into the only ones out there. Again, I'm very surprised how many I see in use.

I like mine more all the time, and not just for the size/weight, and it runs daily for hours and works fine after ... must be 6 months now. Last night I used my Scout and man do I wish I'd brought my LMII/Schroeder setup instead.

I've owned and gigged all the competitors (except Epifani) of similar specs mentioned so far in this thread and I prefer the MB on sound and function alone. The price and size/weight puts it waaaay over the top. I find more than a few gigging pros on TB, and elsewhere, that feel the same way. The competitors will have to pray hard that MB failures become an epidemic or that GC goes bankrupt becuase that's really their only hope of gaining the upper hand at this point, IMO.

As Brad said though, everyone should ideally have a backup. The fact that someone local can maybe fix an amp does you no good on the gig. It's like those ###### Monster Cables. They fail a lot and you can brag about having had 3 replaced for "free" so far after driving across town for an hour, but what good is that on a gig?

Solution - buy 2 Markbass amps for the price of one of most of their competitors. Heck, get an LMII and a used Walkabout and have a very wide variety of tones, a backup, and still spend about the same as most other amps of similar specs cost and still be carrying no more weight than those and only slightly more bulk.

That's good sense and that's good practical math.
 
A Speakon with SS (not likely to see a Speakon on too many all-tube heads anyway) presents no problems for live insertion/removal.
Thank you for your assertion. Can you please explain why?
I'm sure he can, but here it is anyway.

Speakons were designed with (at least) two major design improvement goals over 1/4" and one over banana.

Over both banana and 1/4", the have the security of the locking connection.

Over 1/4", the connections are not inline with each other, so there's no chance of shorting an amp's output stages. On a 1/4" it is possible to do this as it is possible in at least some cases that the tip on the plug (cable) could short the sleeve and tip together in the jack (amp) as it passes in and out.

Oh, and they look lots cooler, too... :D

Bottom line, always use Speakon when available. Period. :D