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Logistical Gigzilla?

I hate to turn down gigs...but this is what I've got.

1. 2 repeat clients at corporate rates of pay on the same night.
2. Gig 1: Hour of instrumental jazz 6 pm -7pm, vocal dance music 7 pm to 9 pm; own sound
3. Gig 2: One hour from 5:15 pm to 6:15 pm, 1/2 instrumental jazz, 1/2 vocal jazz; sound provided.
4. Must be at the 2nd gig to setup by 3:00 pm, according to the event organizer.
5. The two venues are 15 minutes way from each other.

Thoughts on what you would do in this situation? Gig #1 organizer gave me a deposit 4 months ago. Gig #2, which pays better (way better) calls 3 weeks before the event. Gig#2 is the highest profile gig of the area, one that we have done for the last 5 years.
 
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So, for the big reveal. I formed a pickup band for the 6:00 - 7:00 pm portion of the Gig#1. My regular band would play Gig#2,and then get over to Gig#1 for 7 pm, relieving the pickup band after they finished the jazz portion of the night at Gig#1.

To this pickup band I gave a lot of easy, easy standards, since few of them had played together before, and I'd never met two of them. I did rehearse two of them once to test a questionable guy out, which led to some work on my part, but he was ready for the gig. I also gave this pickup group 1/2 hour of dance/vocal charts -- easy songs -- Stand by Me, Moondance, Mustang Sally (no chart on that one), Pride and Joy and more, just in case my regular band was delayed in getting over to Gig#1 to finish out the dance portion of the night.

At Gig#2, I put the singer on for the first half of the festival and then she left way early -- in time to join the pickup band for the vocal portion of Gig#1. In any case, the singer had over an hour to get to from Gig#1 to Gig#2, and arrived early -- she could start the 7 pm - 9 pm dance portion of the night even if the instrumentalists coming from Gig#2 were delayed, using the pickup band.

We used an electronic kit at Gig#2 since it breaks down fast. I played through a DI box at Gig#2 so I didn't have any backline to haul as I rushed to get over to Gig#1.

We set up for Gig #1 at 12:30 pm, and got to Gig#2 way early for setup -- which started 10 minutes early since we were so early for Gig#2 setup. The substitute drummer, bass player, guitarist all used our equipment to make it easy to switch over.

I also phoned all nine musicians the night before "in case they had any questions". Was dismayed that most hadn't downloaded the charts or read the email with load-in instructions, which were complicated at Gig#2. But I gave them verbally to them all and asked them to over-plan, given the number of moving parts.

I also thought about every single problem, and had a backup plan. Only one item was a problem -- the sound people didn't have a DI box even though it was on our input list and stage layout. I pulled out my Sans Amp and used that.

Essentially, it went off without a hitch. Although, it was a 15 hour day from leaving home to arriving home. But it worked. Both clients were happy, we still made money (Gig#2 subsidized Gig#1). It was a lot of work, but good planning made the day of the gigs very unstressful. We were so prepared I wasn't nervous about any of it, although I was on "heightened monitoring" so to speak.

It underscores the importance of having a lot of contacts. To pull this night off, which was unusually busy for all the jazz musicians in town, I worked with 10 different musicians. I had to fill the drum and keyboard slots 3 times for Gig #1 because Gig#2 was a high profile jazz festival, they made excuses for committing to Gig#1 when they shouldn't have. I think they got a better offer at the music festival and bailed on my gig #1.

So, it was a success overall. Both clients want us back, so that is good. Money made was acceptable overall -- Mission accomplished.
 
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I hate to turn down gigs...but this is what I've got.

1. 2 repeat clients at corporate rates of pay on the same night.
2. Gig 1: Hour of instrumental jazz 6 pm -7pm, vocal dance music 7 pm to 9 pm; own sound
3. Gig 2: One hour from 5:15 pm to 6:15 pm, 1/2 instrumental jazz, 1/2 vocal jazz; sound provided.
4. Must be at the 2nd gig to setup by 3:00 pm, according to the event organizer.
5. The two venues are 15 minutes way from each other.

Thoughts on what you would do in this situation? Gig #1 organizer gave me a deposit 4 months ago. Gig #2, which pays better (way better) calls 3 weeks before the event. Gig#2 is the highest profile gig of the area, one that we have done for the last 5 years.
If you have played gig #2 for the past 5 years, why would you double book that date and not assume or verify you would be playing gig #2 again this year? What do you value more your word, given to gig #1, or the money and exposure of #2? I have been there and had to make that decision not pleasant.
 
So, for the big reveal. I formed a pickup band for the 6:00 - 7:00 pm portion of the Gig#1. My regular band would play Gig#2,and then get over to Gig#1 for 7 pm, relieving the pickup band after they finished the jazz portion of the night at Gig#1.

To this pickup band I gave a lot of easy, easy standards, since few of them had played together before, and I'd never met two of them. I did rehearse two of them once to test a questionable guy out, which led to some work on my part, but he was ready for the gig. I also gave this pickup group 1/2 hour of dance/vocal charts -- easy songs -- Stand by Me, Moondance, Mustang Sally (no chart on that one), Pride and Joy and more, just in case my regular band was delayed in getting over to Gig#1 to finish out the dance portion of the night.

At Gig#2, I put the singer on for the first half of the festival and then she left way early -- in time to join the pickup band for the vocal portion of Gig#1. In any case, the singer had over an hour to get to from Gig#1 to Gig#2, and arrived early -- she could start the 7 pm - 9 pm dance portion of the night even if the instrumentalists coming from Gig#2 were delayed, using the pickup band.

We used an electronic kit at Gig#2 since it breaks down fast. I played through a DI box at Gig#2 so I didn't have any backline to haul as I rushed to get over to Gig#1.

We set up for Gig #1 at 12:30 pm, and got to Gig#2 way early for setup -- which started 10 minutes early since we were so early for Gig#2 setup. The substitute drummer, bass player, guitarist all used our equipment to make it easy to switch over.

I also phoned all nine musicians the night before "in case they had any questions". Was dismayed that most hadn't downloaded the charts or read the email with load-in instructions, which were complicated at Gig#2. But I gave them verbally to them all and asked them to over-plan, given the number of moving parts.

I also thought about every single problem, and had a backup plan. Only one item was a problem -- the sound people didn't have a DI box even though it was on our input list and stage layout. I pulled out my Sans Amp and used that.

Essentially, it went off without a hitch. Although, it was a 15 hour day from leaving home to arriving home. But it worked. Both clients were happy, we still made money (Gig#2 subsidized Gig#1). It was a lot of work, but good planning made the day of the gigs very unstressful. We were so prepared I wasn't nervous about any of it, although I was on "heightened monitoring" so to speak.

It underscores the importance of having a lot of contacts. To pull this night off, which was unusually busy for all the jazz musicians in town, I worked with 10 different musicians. I had to fill the drum and keyboard slots 3 times for Gig #1 because Gig#2 was a high profile jazz festival, they made excuses for committing to Gig#1 when they shouldn't have. I think they got a better offer at the music festival and bailed on my gig #1.

So, it was a success overall. Both clients want us back, so that is good. Money made was acceptable overall -- Mission accomplished.

Nicely done!!! Congrats!
 

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