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looking for a envelope filter...

As far as I can tell (I never played the original) the Robotalk began life as a Maestro FSH-1 clone. I believe the Subdecay Prometheus is similar in that regard, though it appears it is getting more tweaking.

If you want to try a Robotalk Bass you'll probably have to find it used. I only found one place (Pedalgeek.com) that even had one new one left. There is a new version coming out, but it will not have the Sample & Hold Filter (what Xotic calls "Random Arpeggiator) included anymore.

Lame, another pedal I want to try goes into "hard to find" status.
 
Lame, another pedal I want to try goes into "hard to find" status.

You may still want to check out the new version. I was told when I inquired about it that it would "be a unit that is only envelope filter function of the old Robotalk but much smaller size box, more friendly parameters, better sound."

I'm not sure what constitutes "better sound" but as it stands now the Robotalk is my favorite sounding filter, especially in a band context. I really liked the Meatball and the Pigtronix EP-1 but the Xotic has a more aggressive sound that doesn't get lost in a mix as easily as those two. Now, I love the S&H function, but I like the Robotalk filter enough that I'd buy it just for the filter.

The Chunk is a cool pedal too, at least from the brief time I've played with it. Even before I had heard that Chunk was making a synth I thought that it was one of the best filters for making synthy noises, though it can do more traditional envelope filter sounds too.
 
Maybe you should try a Frostwave Funk-A-Duck. To continue your analogy, it would be like a rabid wolf. ;)

Those Frostwave people are mental. Luckily their whole store is reporting "out of stock" right now so I can't even look at prices - I've got some cash sitting around waiting for the Octavius Squeezer and I could easily have just lost it on their website. :)
 
the FX25B is "eh." the older lime green one is ":bassist:"

can anyone help please:

I've been looking into getting a DOD FX25 & read that the old ones are better, compared to the newer DOD FX25b but I have noticed that there seems to be two colours of the old one, a lime green one and a darker green (similar colour to the Digitech BSW).

So is there a difference between the two coloured 'old' versions or was this simply a cosmetic change?

Taaaaaaaaaaa
 
I use 2x's Boss Dynamic Filter FT-2's in series, makes an incredible sound. Not dirty at all.

Used to have a Boss SYB 3, that was good.

My Lovetone Meatball always, Always turns heads. I put an Ibanez CP-9 Compressor Limiter in the fx loop on that one.

My Ibanez AF-9 is a different sound. Very responsive and slightly dirty. Quite a formidable opponent to my Meatball in a one-trick-pony kinda way.

My MXR Envelope Filter is good for the grimiest funk gigs. Signal sucker but so what, I found the volume knob on the amp takes care of that non-issue.

Also, don't forget the value of a wahwah pedal for extremely detailed enveloping.

The EBS BassIQ is kinda forgettable after using these but I have one anyway because you do. Trouble is, the EBS sounds great recorded but doesn't get the party started live. Personally, I think all EBS their pedals are overrated. And I've owned them all.
 
One thing you might want to try that I don't think a lot of people do (feel free to scream me down if everyone does this) is to blend a high pass filter with your dry tone. For me, this creates a uber-funky 'lead bass' tone that doesn't suck low end. Same effect, but a way more pronounced sound than just going for a Low Pass or low Band pass sound.