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Double Bass Looking for opinions on higher end Gut

Does anyone find the Gamut pistoys sometimes roll on the finger?

I had a D/G pistoy and was finding if I had a certain amount of tension prepared to pull through the string they would occasionally roll or spin and I’d shag the time up. Never found that with other gut strings.

Another local player here mentioned having the same problem. Lol I felt bad cause I reccomended the gamuts to him because he was a dlugolecki guy but was looking for a more readily available string to purchase.
 
Probably a little bit of both depending on what I'm playing. It can get flubby if I'm trying to play faster stuff, especially if I'm alternating between 1 and 2 on my right hand. If I play closer to the end of the finger board it helps a bit, but then I start lose the tone. So I guess what I mean is the overall response of the string, and how I have to adjust to compensate versus the other strings. It's not really a tension issue in my estimation.

It sounds like most people are steering towards the Gamut Lyon/Pistoy combo.
I'm not sure the upgraded G/D will solve the issues you describe with feel, but I wish you luck! Whenever I try mixing gut and steel/synthetic/etc, it's either the guts are at the right height, and the steels are too high, or the steels are right, and the gut is too low. I guess rather than trying to really dial it in, I chose to go full gut, which works for me. I must admit, I don't do a lot of alternating 12 right hand stuff, though LaFaro sure made it work. Maybe an Oliv D? That seems to be a popular option for bridging non-gut strings on the bottom, and a plain G.
I see you live near Buffalo, if you ever find yourself east towards Utica, and want to hang, let me know.
 
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Hey Folks,

Expanding on a question from another thread that I thought I could get some help with here. Looking to get into some guts on my ‘55 c-1 Kay, I play all pizz and it’s all old time/square dance stuff. Maybe bluegrass if you want a wider context. Mostly acoustic, sometimes micd for a dance. Currently running an old set of Spiro lights with a medium Dr Tomasik G, can’t remember the exact string but needed a little more oomph then what the light G gave. In general I should “stick to lights” according to my luthier.

Options that I’ve gleaned from questions or massive amounts of reading threads (haha)

A) Spiro Lights E/A over Gamut Lyon Med+ G and Pistoy D light or light + (not sure which would be “better”).

B) Aquila Golden Spring/spiral 22’s A/E with same Gamut setup for G/D (again not positive on the Pistoy D gauge).

C) Gamut Red Diamonds. I have concerns about durability.

D) Full Gamut Acadamie set. Concerns about being able to afford rent.

E) Golden Spring 22’s on bottom and Aquila guts on top. Seems like it’s just better to go for the Gamut based on overwhelming support.

Leaning most towards option B. Hopefully I’ve laid out enough detail to have some suggestions thrown my way. Lemme know your thoughts. Thanks everyone!!
 
Wouldn’t a good all synthetic or steel set be better than gut in a humid environment when playing outside?

For the music you play IMHO you don’t need a more flexible Pistoy D or highest quality Gamut gut at all.

I would consider Aquila Sugar Slaps or other Aquila non-gut strings or a cheaper gut G and D (varnished preferred) to try if guts are an option that works.
If gut does work for you, can still order the mich more expensive Gamut gut strings.
 
Let me also add that I live in a humid environment (SF Bay Area) and play outside sometimes.
Gamut varnished D and G.
Hey Folks,

Expanding on a question from another thread that I thought I could get some help with here. Looking to get into some guts on my ‘55 c-1 Kay, I play all pizz and it’s all old time/square dance stuff. Maybe bluegrass if you want a wider context. Mostly acoustic, sometimes micd for a dance. Currently running an old set of Spiro lights with a medium Dr Tomasik G, can’t remember the exact string but needed a little more oomph then what the light G gave. In general I should “stick to lights” according to my luthier.

Options that I’ve gleaned from questions or massive amounts of reading threads (haha)

A) Spiro Lights E/A over Gamut Lyon Med+ G and Pistoy D light or light + (not sure which would be “better”).

B) Aquila Golden Spring/spiral 22’s A/E with same Gamut setup for G/D (again not positive on the Pistoy D gauge).

C) Gamut Red Diamonds. I have concerns about durability.

D) Full Gamut Acadamie set. Concerns about being able to afford rent.

E) Golden Spring 22’s on bottom and Aquila guts on top. Seems like it’s just better to go for the Gamut based on overwhelming support.

Leaning most towards option B. Hopefully I’ve laid out enough detail to have some suggestions thrown my way. Lemme know your thoughts. Thanks everyone!!

A or B… I live near the ocean south of you and the varnished Gamuts are great in the fog outdoors.
 
Hey Folks,

Expanding on a question from another thread that I thought I could get some help with here. Looking to get into some guts on my ‘55 c-1 Kay, I play all pizz and it’s all old time/square dance stuff. Maybe bluegrass if you want a wider context. Mostly acoustic, sometimes micd for a dance. Currently running an old set of Spiro lights with a medium Dr Tomasik G, can’t remember the exact string but needed a little more oomph then what the light G gave. In general I should “stick to lights” according to my luthier.

Options that I’ve gleaned from questions or massive amounts of reading threads (haha)

A) Spiro Lights E/A over Gamut Lyon Med+ G and Pistoy D light or light + (not sure which would be “better”).

B) Aquila Golden Spring/spiral 22’s A/E with same Gamut setup for G/D (again not positive on the Pistoy D gauge).

C) Gamut Red Diamonds. I have concerns about durability.

D) Full Gamut Acadamie set. Concerns about being able to afford rent.

E) Golden Spring 22’s on bottom and Aquila guts on top. Seems like it’s just better to go for the Gamut based on overwhelming support.

Leaning most towards option B. Hopefully I’ve laid out enough detail to have some suggestions thrown my way. Lemme know your thoughts. Thanks everyone!!

A) I've never played Spiros, so no opinion to be had.

B) This is what I'm currently using. Though I'm new to the Gamut Lyon and Pistoy, I'm thoroughly impressed by them. However it's only been a couple of weeks. The Aquila 22's are fantastic. I've been using them for quite a while now, recording and gigging. When I feel it's time, I will replace them with another set of the same. They are my favorite synthetic gut E/A combo to date.

C) I have used both the full set of Red Diamonds in the past, and was using the D/G for a few years mixed with different E/A combos. The E/A are unique, and sound pretty good. However the round wound wire sucks eggs for string noise, and shifting - especially if you are amplifying. Also they will eat the finger board quicker. I did not get a lot out of mine before the windings failed on the A. I moved on from them after that, but stuck with the D/G. The D/G have lasted for years without failure on the windings. While they are no comparison to the Lyon/Pistoy combo, they aren't suppose to be. They are a lower cost variety for those looking to get into the gut game. It's a good string, a bit stiffer than plain gut, and not as clear/focused as something like the Lyon/Pistoy. They would be fine for bluegrass thumping IMO.

D) My personal feelings on metal wrapped gut is avoidance. They all fail.

E) No experience with Aquila's gut.


I also played the Aquila Sugar Slaps for a while too during the testing phase. I wrote some pretty extensive reviews on them in the Aquila thread. I recall mixing the E/A from the Sugars with the Red Diamond D/G for a while. The A string was impressive, but the E was massive and required a decent amount of adjustment to playing as well as very high string height. It just didn't work for my playing. YMMV

I would steer you towards the 22's for your E/A. They mate very well with gut for tone and tension, and the diameters are closer to what you are likely used to. You shouldn't have to fuss too much adjusting to them like you would a Red Diamond or Sugar Slap E/A. They are easy players.