Looking to replace my Rumble v3 with a pedal.

[eric_kiser]

boss gx-10 has a rumble emulation I believe. I suspect the GT-10B

Trying to stay away from multi effects. Not because I have a problem with multi effects. It's an extra expense for a bunch of stuff I don't need.

As a Rumble owner myself, my only question is why on earth anyone would want to emulate it.

I do think that the Rumble is considered entry level and nothing special, so nobody bothered to clone it.

That's a new one on me...don't recall anybody asking for a Rumble emulation.

. . Initially I wanted to pile on (there is a rumble 10 at my local open mic) (. . . shh - not a fan)

Why on earth would you want to emulate the rumble sound. Run away from it and never look back maybe.

LoL! I was expecting this!

For me, the Rumble offers a workable platform that takes my other pedals well. I have the Rumble 800 head. With the different connections (headphone, aux, DI, etc.) and the four band EQ, it gives me a pretty versatile platform for whatever else I want to do. It works for me. I get it doesn't work for everybody.

Also, I've resigned myself to just being a bedroom player. I like making bass sounds. They make me happy.

As for the Fender Downtown Express, to me, it doesn't have the baked in sound of the rumble or the versatility of EQ and connectivity.

I've tried a BDDI clone and a Tech 21 Bass VT. Neither worked for me. Currently, I'm running a Tone Hammer into the front end of the Rumble and I like how the different sounds react with each other.

One other thing I'm looking at is to use a Boss GEB-7 to emulate the baked in EQ of the Rumble and find a different device to satisfy connectivity options. Does anybody know if, using a GEB-7 will get me close to that baked in EQ curve?

What are you planning to plug the preamp into? Another amp, your PA, a DAW?

Headphone out or a Motu M2 for connection to a DAW.

what kind of playing do you do? what styles? vintage or modern or both?

Yes. I like sitting down and being able to play whatever. The rumble has some character but plays pretty well with everything. It's simple and easy to find a sound with. If I need something more, I can set it flat and kick on the Tone Hammer.

Thanks for all the replies. I look forward to seeing what else comes up.

 

[MtManiac]

Trying to stay away from multi effects. Not because I have a problem with multi effects. It's an extra expense for a bunch of stuff I don't need.






LoL! I was expecting this!

For me, the Rumble offers a workable platform that takes my other pedals well. I have the Rumble 800 head. With the different connections (headphone, aux, DI, etc.) and the four band EQ, it gives me a pretty versatile platform for whatever else I want to do. It works for me. I get it doesn't work for everybody.

Also, I've resigned myself to just being a bedroom player. I like making bass sounds. They make me happy.

As for the Fender Downtown Express, to me, it doesn't have the baked in sound of the rumble or the versatility of EQ and connectivity.

I've tried a BDDI clone and a Tech 21 Bass VT. Neither worked for me. Currently, I'm running a Tone Hammer into the front end of the Rumble and I like how the different sounds react with each other.

One other thing I'm looking at is to use a Boss GEB-7 to emulate the baked in EQ of the Rumble and find a different device to satisfy connectivity options. Does anybody know if, using a GEB-7 will get me close to that baked in EQ curve?


Headphone out or a Motu M2 for connection to a DAW.


Yes. I like sitting down and being able to play whatever. The rumble has some character but plays pretty well with everything. It's simple and easy to find a sound with. If I need something more, I can set it flat and kick on the Tone Hammer.

Thanks for all the replies. I look forward to seeing what else comes up.

I would only use a preamp for this, and not the Rumble’s. There are many options… very many. Think about what features you want in terms of EQ, cabsims, IRs, drive, and connections. Then go from there.

 

[Zooberwerx]

Trying to stay away from multi effects. Not because I have a problem with multi effects. It's an extra expense for a bunch of stuff I don't need.






LoL! I was expecting this!

For me, the Rumble offers a workable platform that takes my other pedals well. I have the Rumble 800 head. With the different connections (headphone, aux, DI, etc.) and the four band EQ, it gives me a pretty versatile platform for whatever else I want to do. It works for me. I get it doesn't work for everybody.

Also, I've resigned myself to just being a bedroom player. I like making bass sounds. They make me happy.

As for the Fender Downtown Express, to me, it doesn't have the baked in sound of the rumble or the versatility of EQ and connectivity.

I've tried a BDDI clone and a Tech 21 Bass VT. Neither worked for me. Currently, I'm running a Tone Hammer into the front end of the Rumble and I like how the different sounds react with each other.

One other thing I'm looking at is to use a Boss GEB-7 to emulate the baked in EQ of the Rumble and find a different device to satisfy connectivity options. Does anybody know if, using a GEB-7 will get me close to that baked in EQ curve?


Headphone out or a Motu M2 for connection to a DAW.


Yes. I like sitting down and being able to play whatever. The rumble has some character but plays pretty well with everything. It's simple and easy to find a sound with. If I need something more, I can set it flat and kick on the Tone Hammer.

Thanks for all the replies. I look forward to seeing what else comes up.

This is an interesting project. I would re-post the query in the "Rumble Club" as I think you have a better chance of stumbling across someone who has already done some footwork and / or found a suitable pedal format

Thread 'Fender Rumble Club'

Mar 25, 2013

I searched, but can't seem to find a club for those of us who use and love the Fender Rumble series of amps. Any interest?

I've been playing at home with my Rumble 30 since late January and it seems to me like this amp puts out a good share for being so small! Originally I was looking at the Rumble 15 but went with the 30 because of the extra input jack, more wattage, and I read online reviews which said the 30 would be good enough to play with a band in a small venue even versus the 15 which didn't have as much bang.

Hope to hear form some fellow Rumble fans soon!

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[eric_kiser]

This is an interesting project. I would re-post the query in the "Rumble Club"

I tried over there first with no success.

 

[Zooberwerx]

I tried over there first with no success.

You are, indeed, a trailblazer.

Riis

 

[ValerieK]

The Fender Studio software is free and has a Rumble v3 model:

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[erratick]

I was going by this:

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and I see we're splitting hairs here. After my definition, an EQ curve that is baked into the amp is not a tone stack, because it cannot be directly influenced in the way the original controls work.

It's a baked in EQ curve with a four band EQ.

Read from here on:

Post in thread 'Question about fender amps tone signature'

May 2, 2024

Rumbles do contain a classic Fender tone stack, buried in the circuitry - it's there, and you can't change the setting of that part of the circuitry. The knobs that you can touch are hooked up to another part of the circuitry. If you want flat response, you can get close (not exactly flat, but pretty close). To do that, you have to push both mid controls and back off the treble and bass in order to make the eq you can operate undo what the classic tone stack does.

TMB Tone Stack

It contains that? News to me.

Words have meaning. Fender Tone Stack is a generally accepted...

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Lo and behold in the Rumble schematic- the FMV/TMB is easily matched in that schematic. I'm pretty familiar with bassman amps, and not so much the rumble.

As wasnex says in the thread: "Perhaps it's better to call it a voicing filter than a tone stack...but the architecture is clearly based on the Fender tone stack."

See what you think after reading.

Do you think a tone stack is an EQ? Or an EQ is a tone stack? Is either sufficient or equivalent? Must a tone stack or an eq or filter be adjustable? User adjustable? Voicing filter? Because the user adjustable EQ is different it doesn't have the FMV/TMB in another part? Is it patentable schematic and components?

 

[el murdoque]

Do you think a tone stack is an EQ? Or an EQ is a tone stack? Is either sufficient or equivalent? Must a tone stack or an eq or filter be adjustable? User adjustable? Voicing filter? Because the user adjustable EQ is different it doesn't have the FMV/TMB in another part? Is it patentable schematic and components?

I'd say a tone stack is both the baked in sound and the knobs interacting with that - in the way the original does.
So when you say something has the Fender tone stack, I assume it's three band, with the lows and highs boost only and the mids cut only. Implemented in that peculiar way where the whole thing does not even pass signal with everything at zero.

On a good Sunday morning, well rested and after a great breakfast, dripping with benevolence, I could bring myself to call the workings inside the Rumble a "Modified Fender Tone Stack", arguing that the original tone curve is baked in, but the three band manipulating it has been replaced by a four band that works in a different way.

 

[erratick]

I'd say a tone stack is both the baked in sound and the knobs interacting with that - in the way the original does.
So when you say something has the Fender tone stack, I assume it's three band, with the lows and highs boost only and the mids cut only. Implemented in that peculiar way where the whole thing does not even pass signal with everything at zero.

On a good Sunday morning, well rested and after a great breakfast, dripping with benevolence, I could bring myself to call the workings inside the Rumble a "Modified Fender Tone Stack", arguing that the original tone curve is baked in, but the three band manipulating it has been replaced by a four band that works in a different way.

I'm glad you could call it that. "In order to talk to each other, we have to have words, and that’s all right. It’s a good idea to try to see the difference, and it’s a good idea to know when we are teaching the tools of science, such as words, and when we are teaching science itself."

in the spirit of Feynman- how about being able to fix the TMB/FMV "tone stack", modify or put one together? Because knowing the naming of things doesn't mean you understand it.

what's his quote?

"See that bird? It’s a brown-throated thrush, but in Germany it’s called a halzenfugel, and in Chinese they call it a chung ling and even if you know all those names for it, you still know nothing about the bird. You only know something about people; what they call the bird. Now that thrush sings, and teaches its young to fly, and flies so many miles away during the summer across the country, and nobody knows how it finds its way."

 

[el murdoque]

I'm glad you could call it that. "In order to talk to each other, we have to have words, and that’s all right. It’s a good idea to try to see the difference, and it’s a good idea to know when we are teaching the tools of science, such as words, and when we are teaching science itself."

in the spirit of Feynman- how about being able to fix the TMB/FMV "tone stack", modify or put one together? Because knowing the naming of things doesn't mean you understand it.

what's his quote?

"See that bird? It’s a brown-throated thrush, but in Germany it’s called a halzenfugel, and in Chinese they call it a chung ling and even if you know all those names for it, you still know nothing about the bird. You only know something about people; what they call the bird. Now that thrush sings, and teaches its young to fly, and flies so many miles away during the summer across the country, and nobody knows how it finds its way."

I'm sorry, but the German in me would have to object and claim that if a brown-throated thrush existed in Germany (which, to my knowledge, does not), it would not be called a halzenfugel (that's gibberish), it would be called a Braunkehldrossel (good luck pronouncing that ;-) )

...and I know that the spirit of Feynman would get up and slap me on the head for that remark, because it kinda proves his point even further.
It's just that the whole analogy could have worked with real names just as well. I'm pretty sure chung ling is not the name of the Braunkehldrossel in China.

When you play your bass into your DAW and then pipe it through a Fender Musicmaster VST,
is that a Fender Tone Stack? It's just a piece of software that makes pixels on a display appear and groups them together in such a way that the human eye can make out knobs for bass, mids and treble, click them with the mouse cursor and thusly manipulate them.
In this case, we only have a digital copy of the thing, alas one that works just like the original and if it's a good one, the human ear will not be able to make out the difference between this and the original amp.

 

[InkCow]

Also, I've resigned myself to just being a bedroom player. I like making bass sounds. They make me happy.

With this statement, why do you need a preamp pedal? Why not just use the head for what you want?

 

[eric_kiser]

With this statement, why do you need a preamp pedal? Why not just use the head for what you want?

For now, that's what I'm going to do.

I'm preparing for when I have to go into assisted living, where space will be at a premium. I would like to take my bass and a few pedals.

 

[InkCow]

For now, that's what I'm going to do.

I'm preparing for when I have to go into assisted living, where space will be at a premium. I would like to take my bass and a few pedals.

Understood. In that case, it seems like Fender Studio and a high quality, zero latency USB interface that works with your phone or tablet can’t be beat.

 

[PJorBoth]

For now, that's what I'm going to do.

I'm preparing for when I have to go into assisted living, where space will be at a premium. I would like to take my bass and a few pedals.

I'm very much in your position. I own, have gigged and use every day a Rumble 200. I have recently added the Aguilar Tone Hammer DI V2 and really enjoy that. the main reason for employing the Tone Hammer DI is to get a decent drive arrangement. I set the Rumble to Flat and use the TH into the Rumble pre. OR, I find the Tone Hammer with the Headphone out more than adequate for silent practice. In fact it does as well or better than the Rumble on its own. I can't Imagine anyone requiring a better Preamp pedal to replace the Rumble for that purpose and it certainly enhances the available range of sounds / tones available when used with the Rumble.

 

[eric_kiser]

I'm with you! I think the two sound great together and gives a ton of versatility.

 

[Yahboy]

Good people of TalkBass, I am looking to replace my Fender Rumble v3 with a preamp pedal.

In pedal world there is alot of emulation of other Fender circuits but nobody is doing the Rumble.

How close is something like a Joyo American Sound or a Sushi Box Particle Accelerator to what I'm looking for?

I been own all rumble from v1
To v3, I found v3 sound too scoop and weak D /G string sound without vintage button engage. Then I move to hartke , VT200 and settle with Ampeg RB combo.

I am currently use cheapo pedal for RB combo to mimic the SVT grind.

When Di out, dial back the drive knob to 9 o'clock, then both mix and harmonic knob pass 2 o'clock with both bass/treble on noon. She can sound quite rumble - ish clean /scoop but still have enough meaty upper mid voice that lacking on rumble V3.

 

[eric_kiser]

Funny thing about the Ampeg Rocket Bass, I like them better than SVT. Very pleasing sounds out of the ones I've played.

 

[Aric Bjorn]

Also, I've resigned myself to just being a bedroom player. I like making bass sounds. They make me happy.

Yes. I like sitting down and being able to play whatever. The rumble has some character but plays pretty well with everything. It's simple and easy to find a sound with. If I need something more, I can set it flat and kick on the Tone Hammer.

Thanks for all the replies. I look forward to seeing what else comes up.

For your consideration, because this might be just what you're looking for:

Post in thread 'JHS Punchline'

Nov 9, 2025

My punchline is about to hit the classifieds if anyone is interested. Gotta recover funds to cover an impulse purchase on an MTD Kingston Andrew Gouche’

Edit to add: I’m not sure why my account is no longer listed as a supporting member, but I’ve had a recurring monthly subscription to Talkbass for quite some time. Apologies to the mods for mentioning my sale here, but I should have this sorted out shortly. To be fair, I didn’t ask TB to stop taking my money

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