Mark bass 4x10 or 2 1x12s?

[Sparky Mark]

The 4 ohm STD104HF driven by a 500 watt LM3 was capable of going so loud that I don't think I ever got close to its limits. I will add that it was loaded with what I consider to be high quality cast frame B&C drivers.

 

[woodyng2]

I’ve been using a cmd121p with an 800 tube amp installed for a decade.
I bought a Traveller 1-12 cab to supplement for outdoor gigs.

 

[jeff7bass]

For me, it's been about 10s in recent years.

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Beautiful cabs. To the OP, yes go with a pair of 112's!

 

[jeff7bass]

I'd prefer two smaller cabs to one big one, because that means you can use only one if you don't need all the volume the stack can provide - plus you can leave one of the cabs at the rehearsal space if you're setting up and tearing down for each practice.

All other things equal, a 410 has more speaker surface than a 212, so it _should_ be louder.
Therefore, I'd find a place with a good return policy that has both the 112s and the 104 in stock and buy the 112s to test them out. If you can seriously piss off the entire band by turning the master past noon in a loud band, you should be fine.

Problem is with 410's, unless the speakers are vertical like on the Revsound, is there's cancellation involved so they don't really sound louder onstage unless perhaps you're standing right in front of it.

 

[tshapiro]

Problem is with 410's, unless the speakers are vertical like on the Revsound, is there's cancellation involved so they don't really sound louder onstage unless perhaps you're standing right in front of it.

I'm going to assume you've read something on this because my practical experience does not correlate to it. I find the 410 gets much louder than a 10 or 12 stack.

 

[sloppy_phil]

I always have *so* much extra volume on tap when I use a pair of 112s. I've got the NY121, and a Traveler 121. Can use either or both, depending on the gig. Plus that rig gets up closer to my ear, so I can monitor my sound a bit more accurately than with a 4x10 flapping the air around my legs.

 

[frankie5string]

Problem is with 410's, unless the speakers are vertical like on the Revsound, is there's cancellation involved so they don't really sound louder onstage unless perhaps you're standing right in front of it.

It's not that simple. The 410 Markbass cabinets are heavily midrange-voiced for clarity. They are extremely clear and almost a bit honkey sounding on stage. Another 410 that surprised a lot of people is the TC RH series 410 - also voiced with a lot of midrange clarity. You don't really notice or hear the interference. Those 410 cabs project so well that the first row of the audience can hear them better than the bass player who is standing next to them.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Those 410 cabs project so well that the first row of the audience can hear them better than the bass player who is standing next to them.

This is, to me, one of the main problems/issues with 4-10 cabinets that are a square box with each driver in the corners. They're not so great for the bassist as, in most situations, the bassist can't really hear them very well, for a variety of reasons. Two of them stacked vertical alleviates much of the problem, though.

 

[J Mon]

Thanks for all the replies.
After listening to both of these cabs I’ve decided on the 2 12s. Mostly because I like the sound and portability. The volume difference seems small. A situation where the 2 12s need more volume and, there would be no FOH support, seems rare.

 

[CallMeAl]

Thanks for all the replies.
After listening to both of these cabs I’ve decided on the 2 12s. Mostly because I like the sound and portability. The volume difference seems small. A situation where the 2 12s need more volume and, there would be no FOH support, seems rare.

Enjoy your mini super stack!

 

[jeff7bass]

Thanks for all the replies.
After listening to both of these cabs I’ve decided on the 2 12s. Mostly because I like the sound and portability. The volume difference seems small. A situation where the 2 12s need more volume and, there would be no FOH support, seems rare.

I played big rooms with a pair of 12's (powerful ones with 300w into each) and I had sound guys taking me out of the FOH mix at less than 50 percent volume.

 

[J-Mags]

I'd go for 2x112. Taller, 4ohms total, easier to carry. I've never been a huge fan of 10s, though. They're not my thing, unless they're in a fridge that someone else has to move.

 

[jeff7bass]

I also rehearsed with a single 12" for years with around 300w into it. Did the job.