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Mark bass 4x10 or 2 1x12s?

I had the CMD121 with the matching 112 in a rock band setting and I didn't find them as loud as I hoped. In fact I struggled to get some lows out of them and they would easily fart. I had to buy a compressor to mitigate this issue.
The horn was really hissy and annoying too, I had to disconnect it from the combo. The cab was fine in that aspect.
The only upside was the weight and ease of transportation.

If I had to do it again, I would get the head and 4x10.
 
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Main rig for 12 years.

Running both gives about 3 extra dB in volume, but the rig sounds much fuller with the cab.

Going modular is much more convenient, though if I was strictly a rock guy I'd probably opt for something with a little more kick.
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All other things equal, a 410 has more speaker surface than a 212, so it _should_ be louder.
Markbass says the [This invalid link has been removed] has a sensitivity of 99dB and the [This invalid link has been removed] has a sensitivity of 103dB. That's pretty vague, but assuming both were measured exactly the same way, and that we can assume they were measured as units of dB at 1 Watt at 1 meter, we can assume that two NY212 would have a sensitivity of 102dB. A difference of 1 dB. If all else is equal you probably wouldn't notice the difference while using them.
 
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I never liked the sound of either of the Markbass 4x10 cabs, as they both seem too dark for me. The 12" cabs from Markbass are much more punchy and present. I have a NY212 which is 4ohm, so it is essentially 2 of the 121 cabs minus a tweeter. As for volume, I doubt you will ever go over half volume on your amp. I have a Little Mark 250 and at half volume the NY212 is too loud for my jazz fusion band.

Note that you don't have to use Markbass cabs. I find my Little Mark to sound great through my TC Electronic K410 cab, but not through Markbass 4x10 cabs. But with the NY212 it sounds better than through my TC Electronic K212 cab. My point: it would be a great idea to go to a big music store and try out a few cabs before buying something untested that you may later regret.
 
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I had the 104HF and the 102HF, while I loved both, the 210 cab suited all the gigs I had (bars) plus didn't take up much stage was I carry with one hand. I can't speak to your 212 question but anything you can you can carry with one hand should be at the top of your list
 
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i started out using al 1x12" cabinets, two or three depending on possibility of 2ohms / needs.

i really, really like using single 12" cabinets. I love the sound, middle ground between 10" and 15", and the versatility to be able to just use one is huge. they're the easiest to transport to and from the car.

nothing wrong with a 4x10, but i personally can't recommend single 12" cabs enough. it can be a personal thing, though. ideally you could test the cabinets out in a real live situation, because thats where you'll feel the most difference between your choices.
 
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I bought a new Markbass little mark tube 800. I want to pick the best cabinet(s) to go with it. I’m looking at the markbass 104HF. Or alternatively getting 2 of the New York 121s the 4x10 seems a good match to the head and would be all I need but the NY 121s would be more flexible. Am I thinking correctly that the 2 1x12s together would still give me the correct 800 watts and correct ohms. I feel hopeless when trying to figure out this stuff.
If it helps I’m playing mostly rock music in a variety of settings.
If you had an amp that would safely handle a 2 ohm load, I'd say get the two 112's and add more 112's as needed. But no, the two 112's will not give you the same SPL (sound pressure level = volume) that their 410 cab will.

I have run a single DNS-410 cab by DNA since 2015. It's an exceptional 410 that handles 1400-watts rms and has a max SPL of 137db. Super clear, clean, full, articulate and loud with a very tight bottom end. Cost me $1,000 At the time (now go for ~$1,149) and I figured it would be the last cab I'd ever need to buy. Problem I ran into was brewpubs in Washington state. Most are fairly small and unless we are playing outside, they freak out when I roll in a 410 cab and typically make me use some small backline - usually a 112 combo. So I bought an Eden EX-112 cab and used one of my lower power Eden amps to run it.

I bought that cab in 4Ω because I only expected to ever use the one cab. We hosted an open mic about 40 to 45 times a year at a small brewpub and I bought it specifically to play there. First night I used it I liked the sound of that cab so much that I ordered another one so I could use two of them for medium-sized venues. I used two of them for medium venues for over a year before I got my DNA Endorsement and replaced them with the DNS-210. Those two 112's worked well in medium-sized venues, but I still needed to use my 410 for large venues, outdoor venues, and Festivals. I got a lot of compliments on my sound using my 800-watt Eden amp with those two 112's. But I would be at a disadvantage if not being helped by going through a FOH playing large venues, outdoor venues, and Festivals

My DNS-410 handles any venue just fine. Using my Eden WT500/800 amp bridged at 800-watts into my 8Ω DNS-410, I get told to turn down at Festivals if I set my master at 10:30. So I just nudge it a bit over 10 o'clock at Outdoor Festivals. Normal outdoor venues I usually set around 9:30 depending upon reflective surfaces. If there are a lot of walls to reflect the sound, I turn it down lower than that.

So, I'd say go with the 410 first. If you get that same treatment I did at small venues...then go buy a 112 and use that at small venues.

Here's what I use at small venues. Notice how nicely is all sits in a chair? Also I put my Eden class D amp in a shoulderbag, throw my gig bag over the other shoulder grab my bass in one hand and the cab by its center-back handle and load in or out is pretty well done in one trip. :
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Here's what I used for medium-sized venues. Notice these 112's are so compact even laying them sideways to align their ports, my big Eden amp hangs over the sides. Got a lot of compliments on my sound through these:
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And here's my 410 that can handle any venue anywhere using my 800-watt Eden amp.
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so if the 121s are 400 watts at 8 ohms. If I use 2 of them together that would be 800 watts at 4 ohms right?

As far as I can tell the 104 hf is 8 ohms. Which means I would really only get 400 watts out of it.
You can get the 104hf in either 4Ω or 8Ω Here's the link to their page where it lists that:
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I think it really comes down to Sound vs. Portability. I'm pretty much thinking the 410 sounds 'better' but it's more of a commitment for transport. I'm basing that on my personal feeling that more speakers sounds better (all other things being equal). Plus, if you get a 410 you're halfway to 2 x 410's stacked :D In all seriousness, the only time I wouldn't use a 410 is if the gig volumes simply didn't call for it or transport was going to be an issue. But be careful listening to me
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I don't know about the 4x10, but I found the 1x12 to sound better and be louder than the 2x10. A coupla friends have the 2x10 and my 121P still sounds better than theirs. I can play any indoor gig with just the 121P if I can get it into a corner. I can't imagine that anyone finds the 121P plus the NY121 cab not loud enough! Something is wrong there.

At the time I needed an extension cab for outdoors, the matching cab was not available, so I bought a used Schroeder 1212L with two 12s in a tiny cab and a very similar sound, so I have three 12s and 500W and it is so loud I don't need to go past 1/2 volume. AND - it all fits in the trunk of my car. The MB 12s are amazing.

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