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Marshall Super Bass - Got one?

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Is that Shannon Elizabeth?

Nice.
 
What does "mostly clean with a fair amount of grit" mean?:):)


Good question. I'll try to explain it. I plug straight into the amp with no effects, so the "dirt" in my sound comes from the amp itself (along with driving the input hard with the DiMarzio X2N-B pickup in my bass). As you may or may not know, Super Bass amps get more distorted as you crank the volume. I play on about 4, so it's not crazily distorted, but it's loud and there's a decent amount of "hair" in it :D. It's kind of between Lemmy's tone and Gene Simmons' tone on KISS Alive.

Cheers!
 
hi all

first of all: Im new to TB and I'm a guitard (I admit it :bawl:)

Yes, I play loud guitars especially with certain amps that like to be pushed hard (not because I want to be louder than everyone else).:hiding: I also produce and engineer so I got this one as a great sounding and versatile tool.

I found this thread just by looking for people interested in buying mine (the early JCM 800 version with vertical inputs). Here's the link to the ebay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160392764262&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

1. Who here on TB has one? How long have you had it?
2. What kind of sound do you use it for?
3. In your experience, what size venue is it best suited for - on it's own. Let's say for rock or fairly loud blues or a three piece laking a guitard obsessed with volume?
4. What other famous or other well known bass players have used this head (excepting Lemmy)?

1. Answered, for about 5 yrs
2.1. Bass: 'Warm' kind of 'retro' driven-crunchy sounds.
2.2.1. Guitar: 'up to 11' JCM 800 flavoured guitardness extravaganza:rollno:
2.2.2. Scooped mids metal rhythm
2.2.3. boosted mid leads
2.2.4. clean electrics and amped nylons and acoustics

3. matchig the cabs/speakers properly, you can become a right basstard. as I mentioned in the link you can easily give a couple of half stacked guitards a run for their money. I have plugged it to an old marshall 4x12 cab and two 1x15 HH with their sub-holes under the speaker and drive the amp. You get the slightly saturated output stage compression and harmonic enhancement and dynamic control, that lives in a different frequency range than most guitars (perfect for bluesy stuff). And I mean quality LOUDNESS!.:hyper:

4. I'm not sure about the 800 version (I know Tool used them for guitars). The jmp version by people like Roger Glover, Jack Bruce, John Paul Jones etc.

If anyone could shed some light on what are the difference between 70s models and 80s models?

The main changes were in the EQ section (addition of parametric mids). I understand it was introduces as a corrective measure for the natural response of the fender basses (the most popular at the time) any scale played within the first 5 frets suffers dramatic tonal changes due to the nature of the instrument itself. The E note on the second fret, second string loses a lot of 'sonic tension' compared to the same note on the third string 9th fret.

Another major difference is the input arrangement. The old superbass had four inputs assigned to its 2 channels (one voiced higher the other lower) so it was common to patch them with a lead. The 800 series were arranged in a different way with variations between the early (vertical input) ones and the following (horizontal input) ones:

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I hope I have been helpful

cheers
 
Listen to the Relayer album by Yes. Chris Squire used a super bass 100W for the whole album. He also used it on Ritual from Tales From Topographic Oceans and on his solo album Fish Out Of Water. It's all mid-70's prog. I think Relayer is a great example of his Rick/Marshall sound. He had it pretty overdriven and I always thought it was a great snarly tone. He used to play it thru two (rare) Sunn 6x12 (that's right) cabs.

Another player who got a great tone from his Marshall Super Bass 100 was Trevor Bolder back when he was with Bowie/Spiders. Listen to David Bowie Santa Monica Live '72. Bolder played a long-scale (slotted head) Gibson EB3 thru Marshal Super Bass 100 and Marshall 4x15 (that's right) cabs. His tone is AWESOME on that live recording.

Cheers man! I found that mega helpful!
 

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