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McCartney Sabotaged Lennons Songs?

#61
Floyd Eye said:
Ringo also claims that Paul came back to the studio after they had all left on occasion and re-did his drum parts.
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In all the books I've read (including Emerick's) I haven't heard for certain that he re-recorded Ringo's drum tracks (the way Todd Rundgren in Nazz went into the studio, erased the lead singer's vocals, and substituted his own), but Paul gave Ringo LOTS of directions, that is for sure.
 
#63
lousybassplayer said:
Couldn't have been all that long of a time. Relationships generally require two living participants.
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Well, they split up in 69 didnt speak again for 5-6 years, from certain perspectives that is a long time. Anything that was said in the press in the wake up the breakup I take with a grain of salt, in 1970 it was still a fresh wound.

They had apparently reconciled by 1975, there was a skit on Saturday Night Live where Lorne Michaels offered $1000 to the Beatles if they reunited on the show, apparently Paul was in NY with John at the time and for 5 minutes they almost decided to do it

Conversely, the other 3 were all pretty chummy after the breakup, Ringo played drums on Johns Plastic Ono Band album; George played on the Imagine album; John and Ringo played on All Things Must Pass; George cowrote and produced Ringos biggest solo hit

I think George and Paul hahad just as bad, or worse, of a relationship as Paul and John, but George wasn't as public about it as John. I remember reading an interview with George from the late 70s, when asked if people could expect new Beatles music any time soon, he said if people wanted to hear new Beatles music to buy a Wings album
 
#68
lbanks said:
Just to start some trouble...
Lennon never wrote a song I could listen to all the way thru.
YMMV
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Thank you, sir. Someone had to say it. I love the Beatles music and to a lesser extent Paul's solo work but for the love of all that is good and holy I just don't see how anyone, ANYONE, listens to John Lennon's solo material. In my eyes...

Paul's talent>John, Ringo, and George's combined.

No matter how much we speak of and appreciate the musical talents of Paul he will still be underrated.
 
#72
Lennon made no secret in interviews of his dislike for playing bass; he clearly didn't try very hard. (If anything is "sabotage," it's Lennon's Long and Winding Road bass part, though the Beatles made a rule not to overdub on the Let It Be sessions, so maybe that's the explanation for its lameness.) Perhaps he was worried that if he displayed any competence at playing the bass, he'd get "stuck" with bass chores more often. The shortest list ever would be "John Lennon's Most Inventive Bass Lines."
 
#74
Incidentally, I think George was giving Paul a hard time in the later Beatles days because McCartney (rightfully) objected to George's plan to play a guitar riff in response to every vocal line on the verse of Hey Jude. ("Hey, Jude" "nair nair"/"Don't make it bad" "nair nair.") Lennon was capable of great genius, but Paul was the only one with a pulse during the Let It Be period, at least.
 
#75
Pet Sounds said:
Incidentally, I think George was giving Paul a hard time in the later Beatles days because McCartney (rightfully) objected to George's plan to play a guitar riff in response to every vocal line on the verse of Hey Jude. ("Hey, Jude" "nair nair"/"Don't make it bad" "nair nair.") Lennon was capable of great genius, but Paul was the only one with a pulse during the Let It Be period, at least.
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I think you're correct.

And Chris, it's pronounced "Mack, uh". I think it's kinda stupid myself. I think it originated with that Michael Jackson duet business, you know, Macca and Jacko. I think it was written on the minstrel wagon they were riding around on in the video, if memory serves me.
 
#76
Any time there are two strong personalities in a band you have this creative feud it seems.
I think everyone benefited in the end. Loads of great stuff from all of their projects. Whichever one I'm listening to at the moment is the genius. I think Paul's basslines worked out pretty damn well.
 
#78
Pet Sounds said:
but Paul was the only one with a pulse during the Let It Be period, at least.
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I think Let it Be was a mistake, they couldnt really pull it together, it was essentially Pauls idea, the "get back" concept and the no overdubs, its not surprising if he was the only one who was into it, it never should've been released (in the state that it was) They were all but broken up at that point, with George actually quitting for a period, its amazing that they were able to rally together to make Abbey Road the masterpiece it is
 
#79
benjammin420 said:
I think Let it Be was a mistake, they couldnt really pull it together, it was essentially Pauls idea, the "get back" concept and the no overdubs, its not surprising if he was the only one who was into it, it never should've been released (in the state that it was) They were all but broken up at that point, with George actually quitting for a period, its amazing that they were able to rally together to make Abbey Road the masterpiece it is
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Ironically, Let it Be was released AFTER Abbey road. Also ironically, Lennon hated Abbey road. He called it junk. I think in that Rolling Stone interview in fact.
 
#80
I don't really like the debate of which of the 2 (macca or lennon) is the greater genius, in my opinion, the Beatles all together is genius, but none of them alone is a genius. Their solo careers are proof of this; nothing that's been done by any of the 4 Beatles AFTER the Beatles is genius, whereas everything the Beatles have maid is genius.
 

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