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Double Bass McCrory scholorship

#21
QUOTE=mcnaire2004]I have learned that it is more about telling them why you need the scholarship and why you should go to a music camp..[/QUOTE]

well I guess If you play a crappy audition then you really need that that scholarship to get some learnin...
 
#22
lowendforlife said:
Hey man, we're just trying to offer some useful advice that can help you beyond just simply tossing random questions at you. I'm sorry if you disagree, but I believe that the things being said here are even more valuable than what could be yielded in the way of your original request for Q&A.
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mcnaire, I would bet that nearly everyone who has posted a reply to your thread has been playing longer, has been through more auditions, years of study under different teachers, played 10 times the repertoire, etc. You should really realize that everyone is trying to help you. You have the drive, that we all have or had at one time, and it would seem as though you have some talent too. Nobody is being rude to you, even the short time I've been on talkbass, I've not seen one person be down-right rude to another. What I do see is you asking questions and then getting agitated when we tell you something you don't want to hear. You're wasting your time, and a lot of other fine folks' time.

One thing you're just going to have learn to do is keep your ego in check, learn to take criticism and suggestions, and be grateful for it. If you can't do this my friend, I guarantee you won't make it far. I remember what it was like being 16 and in the youth symphony.. everyone always impressed and giving praise, and nobody you know is better - but when you get to college or even a music camp you're most likely going to be the small fish. You'll be surrounded by people with talent and drive. What will set you apart from everyone else? Dragonetti in 6 days ain't it, bud.

I'll give you this - if Dragonetti is the only concerto you have, go for it on Monday - but at 16 - you'll be auditioning heavily in the next 2 years. You need to find a piece, and prepare it properly. In my opinion Dragonetti's 1st mvt is about the worst audition material you could possibly choose. Do some searching on this forum, consult your teacher(s)(do you have 2 now?), and find a piece that is a little less - hate to say it but - cliche.

Sorry for going way off topic, and I apologize for the attack mcnaire - again I'm just trying to help like everyone else.

Good luck on Monday...
 
#23
jb6884 said:
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Sorry for going way off topic, and I apologize for the attack mcnaire - again I'm just trying to help like everyone else.

Good luck on Monday...
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JB, I wouldn't consider your post to be an attack, but good advice ( Maybe hard for a young player to hear, but..I was 16 myself ,a long time ago...)
I think Sam said it best and most tactfully.-YOU are a person they would be happy to be associated with. Just be yourself, man. Forget the script. The scholarship is great and we all hope you get it, but ultimately it will be just as valuable for you to go through the interview/audition process.
 
#24
I didn't get it. I was told that the Dragonetti Concerto was to easy. Witch, I do understand since I was up against a bunch of violins and violas. But it is cool. There is a second scholorship being givin out in a few months and Edger Myer is giving a master class when he comes to chatt late in march. So, Since there are the same judges I will probably play a excerpt of Bottesini's Concerto #1 first movement or the whole second movement. On a brighter side, the Manhattan School of Music sent me a recruitment letter today.:)
 
#25
mcnaire2004 said:
I didn't get it. I was told that the Dragonetti Concerto was to easy.
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Did you know that Hal Robinson won his previous job as principle of the National Symphony playing the Dragonetti?

The point being that the easiest piece, played well, will always be more impressive than a difficult piece played poorly.
 
#26
PaulCannon said:
Did you know that Hal Robinson won his previous job as principle of the National Symphony playing the Dragonetti?

The point being that the easiest piece, played well, will always be more impressive than a difficult piece played poorly.
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True, but thats what they told me on the phone earlier today. "The level of difficulty wasn't up to some of the other instruments." I had a kinda knew I wouldn't be able to compete with the second chair first violin. But it is cool. I was selected to go to Tennessee Honors Festival. They probably got my name off the list of people who made all-east.
 
#28
Here we don't choose our own audition music for all-east. We just get what they give us and we all go to the "blind" audition (BTW we played Mozarts symphony No. 41 for all east). I honestly think the Dragonetti is a difficult piece. I spent a lot of time on the Dragonetti the last few weeks. It really took allot of work. I was really mad (and so was my teacher when I called him and told him what they said).
 
#30
mcnaire2004 said:
Here we don't choose our own audition music for all-east. We just get what they give us and we all go to the "blind" audition (BTW we played Mozarts symphony No. 41 for all east). I honestly think the Dragonetti is a difficult piece. I spent a lot of time on the Dragonetti the last few weeks. It really took allot of work. I was really mad (and so was my teacher when I called him and told him what they said).
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Sorry McNaire, Unfortunately there are a lot of chin-instrument players that are uninitiated when it comes to the bass rep. Just a suggestion, but Edgar knows the Dragonetti quite well he could help you a lot with it and maybe that would be an opportunity to show those judges a little about the bass rep. Wait a while on the Bottesini.
 
#33
Very sorry to hear the result McN but sod that, it's the next that matters now. I'm crap at following my own advice. If I was in this situation I think I should ask the bass people in the know about the Dragonetti - is this an audition winning piece as above, and therefore do you think I should build and perfect what I can do or do something new? You look to be doing this already.

I've been out a couple of days and missed the result when I called in an internet cafe. If a bit of flash is all that matters I can list many jazzers who'd be out of a job, Charlie Haden being top of the list. I've run into quite a few people over the years that think bass is easy. I play other instruments and have a different view. But despite that - what a thing to say - it's not an ice skating competition where they seem to give higher artistic marks as well as technical ones for the skater who jumps the highest with the most twirls. If you've got an anorexic midget of a skating partner you can throw her accross the rink doing quituple triple salkos with backward flip and pike. Actually if you throw her into the barrier they still give you a silver medal (I've been keeping up with thte winter Olympics) If your partner is larger you do something else - but it's no less artistc or difficult. Unfortunatley they only seem to mark in a manner that benefits freaks.
 

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