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Mesa 400+ EQ Questions

If he bought it used (or even new), somebody may have put a funky tube in there to begin with or when it was sold (the unfortunate common practice of people switching out the nice tubes in their amps with junk before they sell them). My Genz Streamliner came new from the factory with one preamp tube that put out much lower than normal signal- I didn't even realize there was an issue with it until I started experimenting with tube swaps. It was one of a pair of identical tubes they use in that preamp and I could switch between the two tubes in the same position and lose nearly half the gain with the bad tube, but without significant added noise or microphonics- it was a pleasant surprise after thinking I had to crank the input Gain on the amp like crazy to get a decent volume. I also had a pre tube go bad after a couple years in my Mesa Walkabout that for whatever reason would only show its problems when fed a high impedance (passive) signal. If I put an active preamp in front of the amp, even with the volume cut significantly on the preamp it would sound great, but if I plugged in with just my passive bass the signal would be weak and would develop a louder and louder swishing sound while the tubes warmed up. A new tube in v1, and BAM- my trusty old Walkabout again, active or passive! I would have suggested preamp tubes first, but I assumed that would have been the first place someone would troubleshoot with preamp problems in a tube amp!
 
Thanks again for the replies. I'm not very mechanically or electrically inclined, myself, so I just wanted to sort of get an idea of what might be the issue, or actually if I even had one. My only other amp I use regularly is a 68 Fender Bassman that I playe guitar through. Bass, treble, volume, and bright switch is all that thing has, and all I ever need out of it. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't just inexperience with the 400+ that was fooling me. I'm now convinced that it's not.
 
Thanks again for the replies. I'm not very mechanically or electrically inclined, myself, so I just wanted to sort of get an idea of what might be the issue, or actually if I even had one. My only other amp I use regularly is a 68 Fender Bassman that I playe guitar through. Bass, treble, volume, and bright switch is all that thing has, and all I ever need out of it. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't just inexperience with the 400+ that was fooling me. I'm now convinced that it's not.

Sorry i never got back to you till now; I think your amp does have a problem, and substituting a new 12ax7 preamp tube (one at a time) yourself is a very good Idea. Its pretty easy to remove the top cover so you can reach them, and there's not really any danger of shocking yourself when doing any of this. (just make sure your fingers aren't touching the tubes-pins when swapping)

I'd probably start out substituting the new tube into each of the 2 locations furthest away from the input jacks, then (if that didnt fix it) try into each of the other 2 locations closer to the input jacks.

You might just end up fixing the problem yourself at a fairly reasonable cost :cool:

PS:

Check out this thread:--> http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/i-have-joined-dark-side-well-not-really-387202/
You could also buy a 12AU7 tube and tryout Psycho Bass Guys alternative driver tube swap at the same time. (I dug the results of this driver-tube swap with my 400+)

I suppose your problem could even be a combonation of 2 partially defective 12AX7's... So you could also pick up three 12AX7 (and just one 12AU7) tubes to substitute just in case... Even If swapping these tubes doesnt fix your problem, you could keep the tubes around for later use, they'll prolly come in very handy at some point on down the road...
 
Sorry i never got back to you till now; I think your amp does have a problem, and substituting a new 12ax7 preamp tube (one at a time) yourself is a very good Idea. Its pretty easy to remove the top cover so you can reach them, and there's not really any danger of shocking yourself when doing any of this. (just make sure your fingers aren't touching the tubes-pins when swapping)

It sounds like you are suggesting the OP should swap tubes with the power on? Not a good idea. Good way to fry a tube actually.
I would completely turn off the amp when swapping tubes. It's already misbehaving I am sure it won't like being mistreated.