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Mesa Boogie M9 Megathread: Pt II

A 4ohm ph410 would be killer. And you can't beat a Stingray through a Mesa rig! I have an 8 ohm version and the M9 has so much grunt that power and head room are just not a concern. I have never gigged the ph410 as I have my ph412 which is arguably easier to move around despite being a lot larger. I do really like the 410 tone but have been spoiled for the mesa 12's as they just seem to allow the mids to shine through. My 410 is going nowhere though!

I have a M9+PH410 4ohm bass cabinet and use a Music Man Stingray 4 string Bass and have used this rig on every stage size from the corner bar to large outdoor festival stages and can say that this bass rig can beyond cover any live musical situation you can thow at it... As a weekend warrior with over 30 years of giging experience under my belt, I have learned that I actually need more volume in my rig than a world stage touring musican because you don't always have the luxury of being run through the house system and or a monitor mix... When it's just you against the guys and a P.A. on a stick in a large field or a street festival or a large convention room, you have to be able to keep up with the pack and not worry about not having the fire power when you need it...

This bass rig is as versatile as any bass rig you could find, and at the end of the day, it does it's job without breaking a sweat which is more than I can say for myself... It's esthetics are truly amazing and the compact size of the entire bass rig are a plus for fitting it and my P.A.(Bass players always own the P.A.) in my Honda Element without any trouble... There will always be a discussion group on what gear is the flavor of the week... But when you get down to the real question's:

"Does it sound like the bass sound that I want to be identified by as my sound? And, will it work flawlessly and dependably gig after gig"

When you can answer yes to these question, you have arrived at the Mesa Boogie Bass Rig of your dreams...
 
Great news! Glad to hear the M9's are returning to their roosts! Mine performed flawlessly a few weeks back and in one of the loudest jams I ever played in, I could not turn the master up past 1/4. Amazing amp.
 
I understand the allure of the 12's for their weight and distinct tone... But the tightness, clarity and rapid recovery time from the 10 inch speakers are just more my thing... The 10's offer such a focused sound and a low end kick that you could never achieve from the 12's... And I'm not in any way saying either one is better, it's just knowing what is the best choice for yourself... They are 2 different animals and both have a place in someone's bass rig world... It's worth mentioning that Mesa could never find a 10 inch NEO speaker to fulfill they're strict sound architecture... As far as I know, only the 12's have made the cut...
 
While I haven't had any troubles with my Carbine, I have read the posts regarding the failures and warranty upgrades. I've become very interested in having this work done.

I live in Canada and would like to know if it is necessary to ship directly to Mesa for this service, or can the work be done locally through an authorized repair and warranty shop.

These guys are internationally reknowned for the quality of their work. Anybody?
 
You might want to call Mesa CS with your serial number, and ask them what updates would apply, and, then call you local shop to see if they can execute on that
 
I am posting this here as this looks like a Mesa freaks page. Hope that ok.

I'm in Ireland and my Combo has a passive 10" speaker firing into the floor - vibrates the floorboards. I love this combo and the down -firing speaker sounds like "thunder, lightning the way it sounds is frightening".

Trouble is some "stages" are concrete here and so I am losing that thunder.

Do you think if I made a timber box, open on top that the rim of the mesa sat in (sealed into the box say rubber to rubber) and well sound insulated on 3 sides with an internal slanting board like / to the front it might give me that thunder sound since the downfire speaker had something to vibrate?

I can't get feedback from Mesa and I have not a clue about dimensions. Any comments welcomed.
 
The downfiring passive radiator is an engineering alternative to a port. It simply tunes the cab lower than expected for its' box size. There isn't really any significant sound coming from it. Any difference you are hearing is most likely a result of room acoustics (possibly related to the concrete floor), rather than loss of "output" from the radiator.



I am posting this here as this looks like a Mesa freaks page. Hope that ok.

I'm in Ireland and my Combo has a passive 10" speaker firing into the floor - vibrates the floorboards. I love this combo and the down -firing speaker sounds like "thunder, lightning the way it sounds is frightening".

Trouble is some "stages" are concrete here and so I am losing that thunder.

Do you think if I made a timber box, open on top that the rim of the mesa sat in (sealed into the box say rubber to rubber) and well sound insulated on 3 sides with an internal slanting board like / to the front it might give me that thunder sound since the downfire speaker had something to vibrate?

I can't get feedback from Mesa and I have not a clue about dimensions. Any comments welcomed.
 
The downfiring passive radiator is an engineering alternative to a port. It simply tunes the cab lower than expected for its' box size. There isn't really any significant sound coming from it. Any difference you are hearing is most likely a result of room acoustics (possibly related to the concrete floor), rather than loss of "output" from the radiator.

That's interesting. I never thought of that. It's sort of disappointing though because I love that sound so much. Thanks Lomo for your time
 
Just got back from a loud rehearsal with my new M9 and I love it! I ran it through only a TC Electronic 1x12 and it still cut through 2 loud guitarists and drummer.... And I still had headroom!

I change amps as often as some change their underwear, but I think this one will be with me a long time!

Strangely, I briefly owned a Big Block 750 a few years back and didnt like it at all. It seems that the voicing of the M9 is much more to my liking and seems the highs cut much better in the mix than the BB750....
 
I agree with you... Mesa has been evolving their bass sound for a long time now and I think they have finally struck universal gold with the Carbine line and more directly the M9... I used to own a Mesa 400+ and as much as I loved that amp, it was a ton of hurt to carry around 6-7 gigs a week... It seemed like it got heavier as the week went on... I went back to the well a 2nd time with the Big Block 750 and I liked it, but, I didn't feel the LOVE!!!

Being a committed Mesaholic, I sat it out on the sidelines for a lot of years with my Eden WT800 rig in hopes Mesa would create the magic again for me... My prayers were answered when the Carbine line was released, each one seemed to lure me in slowly, but not quite enough to jump ship from my Eden rig that was everything I needed for a long time minus the fact that it wasn't a Mesa amp... That is until Mesa released what I would call their "Holy Grail" the M9... 1 note and it was all over for me. I can't even imagine how they could improve on this amp(minus an independent mute switch)...

I believe this amp is the "Game Changer" and will win over the masses in the low end camp from this moment froward!!!
 
Yeah, I'll call Mesa tomorrow with the SN. It's a very low number, in the low 100's if I'm not mistaken.

So I'm sure some or all of the upgrades are applicable. Because it is warranty is this stuff is all on their dime, with the exception of shipping?

If you bought the amp at long and mquade, they will likely ship it for you to Mesa on their dime as they did for me. it was great service on their part.
 
2 questions for the M9 experienced TBers out there...

- As the new owner of SN 281, should I be concerned about any of the upgrades discussed? Any feedback from anyone with a M9 in this SN range?

- my M9 is the "Classic" head version in the factory Mesa case.... why does it seem that all of the M9s out there are the rack version?

P.S. So far I am nothing but pleased with this amp. It sounds amazing with my TC cabs as well as my Sadowsky SA410! This amp is everything I have searching for tone-wise for 25+ years!
Thanks!
 
Best way to know about upgrades is to call Mesa CS with your serial number.

There aren't two versions of the head. The 'classic' thing means nothing, other than you have a headcase, versus a rack. Same head, either way. Same rack ears, same features, etc.
 
- my M9 is the "Classic" head version in the factory Mesa case.... why does it seem that all of the M9s out there are the rack version?

The rack version weighs about 28 lbs. vs. 50 lbs. for the head. It's also $200 cheaper. Since a decent 3U or 4U rack can weigh less than 22 lbs. and be had for less than $200, most people go with the rack version to save $$ and weight. The head's nice looking and bomb-proof, of course, so it's a viable option. Personal choice.