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Mesa Boogie M9 Megathread: Pt II

I am currently deciding between the M9 and GB ShuttleMax 9.2. I play electric and upright in jazz, latin, prog rock, blues, and contemporary worship music. I read through the first megathread, played through the M9 with an electric (very tasty, like a good, lean steak), and was curious as to M9 user's experiences with upright bass and the M9.
Have you used the M9 with upright?
What did you think?

Thanks.

I apologize if this is the wrong forum to ask.
 
I have indeed used the M9 for DB.
I'll preface all this by saying I like the Walkabout much better; it's richer, warmer, rounder...

The M9 is pretty bright by nature. If you're after a darker old school, gut strings "thump and disappear" early driving straight 8 jazz thing; you'll likely be frustrated by it.

On the other hand, if you like a brighter tone, with well represented string and finger noise (it won't create it, but, you'll hear it if it's there) it can work well. The extended and crisp treble does a nice job of letting you "hear the air" in a DB.

The huge low end of the M9 can be hard to contain. I prefer voice 2, but, it adds a lot of low end. The GEQ is helpful here, and, can be helpful with feedback problems.

The comp limiter works well, and is fairly invisible about it; it doesn't "breathe," or squash things.

It can sound pretty nice for DB, it's waaaaaaay more power than I can use with DB.
Is that helpful? I sure wouldn't buy one for DB without a return/audition policy in place.

Lastly, it's going to depend-a lot-on your bass, your strings, your pickup, your outboard pre if you use one, and what speaker/s you use, and, your playing style.

It seems to me, all those sort of variables make much larger diff with db, than with electric.
 
The rack version weighs about 28 lbs. vs. 50 lbs. for the head. It's also $200 cheaper. Since a decent 3U or 4U rack can weigh less than 22 lbs. and be had for less than $200, most people go with the rack version to save $$ and weight. The head's nice looking and bomb-proof, of course, so it's a viable option. Personal choice.

Thx.

The Mesa head is almost indestructible, but it is very heavy. If I did it again, I would have bought the rack version and a 2U SKB or Gator case.

Amazing amp though... although it did die for a brief second last night when I pushed it. Spoke to Mesa (great CS) and it will likely have to go back for the venting/heatsink upgrade. I would just return it, but I really can't go back to my TC RH450 or Ampeg SVTs after playing this damned thing. I am definately sold on the tone.... best amp I have ever heard!
 
If you bought the amp at long and mquade, they will likely ship it for you to Mesa on their dime as they did for me. it was great service on their part.

Thanks Crabby. This may take a little time. The amp was bought at LM but not by me. I picked it up used in the spring of 2009 from a local guy. The LM guy I talked to yesterday seemed unaware of the issues. He looked up the serial number and gave me the purchase date, and said it was still under warranty.

I am waiting for Mesa to call me back. Let's see what happens.
 
The downfiring passive radiator is an engineering alternative to a port. It simply tunes the cab lower than expected for its' box size. There isn't really any significant sound coming from it. Any difference you are hearing is most likely a result of room acoustics (possibly related to the concrete floor), rather than loss of "output" from the radiator.

My understanding is that it does "put out sound"- it takes over the mechanic vibrations of the active speaker progressively more as you reach the tuning frequency of the cabinet, and adds an extra part of an octave onto the low-end that would otherwise be impossible given the box size. The Scout cabinets have both a port AND the passive radiator, and completely covering either will change the tone of the cabinet, but sitting the cab on concrete shouldn't actually cover the radiator any more than setting it on any other material since the cabs feet keep it above the ground.

As far as "directing" the tone from the passive radiator- since it is all sub bass frequencies, it is omni-directional anyway and I think adding such a box is more likely to act as an extra tuning mechanism than to actually help you get the existing tone more consistently. Chances are you are just dealing with different room acoustics, and not anything directly to blame on the passive radiator.
 
So I gigged my "new to me" M9 tonight.....

ABSOLUTE DISASTER.

Pure and simple. What a $hit show. Absolutely embarrassing.

I bought the amp from a large retailer, so no concerns with repair, but this amp destroyed my gig.

First set.... Perfect.
Second set.... Almost perfect. One little cut out, but thought it was a cable.
Third set..... Cut out completely on at least 10 occasions. Turned the amp on and off and jiggled cables every 2 min or so. Completely unacceptable. 15 songs in the last set? I might have got through 3.... With a full dance floor!

Can't say enough how pissed I am..... I have owned garbage amps that crapped out less.

In 25+ years of doing gigs this is the worst, by far that an amp was so buggered.

Shame on Mesa for releasing such poor quality products

In any case, the M9 is the best sounding bass amp I have ever heard. It is unreal. My bandmates were blown away at the tone. I have owned lots of amps, but this Mesa s just amazing.

Love the product..... Love the customer service..... Hope this amp can be fixed and last!
 
I have the same problem (2nd time). M9 just kept cutting out. I was sure that it was the speakon cables because when I would just touch them, the output would re-appear. Brought it back to the dealer/service center and after only 4 days they said that it was ready; a resistor was replaced and something else was done. I pick it up in about 2 hours and I'm going to play the hell out of it in the store before I leave.

I totally agree with Baird6869; shame on Mesa for allowing such poor quality product to leave their plant.
 
Baird: what's your serial number...?

Hey Chef,

SN is 281.

Question for all....

If you were me, would you...

1. Get the amp fixed? Long & McQuade in Canada is great to me and would lend me any amp in the store I want for free while I wait for a month plus for the amp to be fixed. A new M9, old Fathom, Ampeg SVT, etc. They treat me well.

2. Pay approx $200 more for a brand new Rack (mine is in a Mesa case) version of the M9?

Sorry for the late night rant above, but my M9 destroyed my gig and will likely cost me $$$ as the bar owner wasn't thrilled at my technical problems!
 
If you like the Mesa headcase, and don't mind the weight, and you can trade yours in for $200, I'd totally hit that.
Make sure the other unit has a much later serial number.