Just a quick note: Music is not a competition! The second you claim to be better than someone else, you've lost all chances at being a respectable musician.
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Michael Anthony and Van Halen
- Thread starter Medford Bassman
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Huh...I always though Mike did what was needed and what Van Halen's Music demanded from him. I have also read in a few places that Eddie did some of the bass tracks in the studio and Mike, obviously, did them live.
No judgment on Eddie or Mike for that and I cannot cite a source...
As to Van Halen ending when DLR left, you are correct. But then I think Van Hagar
was also a very great lineup and the music was a little different. A little softer edge, more refined? Definitely more progressive if not a bit poppy (read that radio play).
They jumped the shark with Gary as the front man though...
Back to my point, Mike can, in fact, play. He has done some really good stuff since leaving VH.
Not everyone has to be Superman you know. And I will let his earnings as a musician speak for him....
No judgment on Eddie or Mike for that and I cannot cite a source...
As to Van Halen ending when DLR left, you are correct. But then I think Van Hagar
was also a very great lineup and the music was a little different. A little softer edge, more refined? Definitely more progressive if not a bit poppy (read that radio play).They jumped the shark with Gary as the front man though...
Back to my point, Mike can, in fact, play. He has done some really good stuff since leaving VH.
Not everyone has to be Superman you know. And I will let his earnings as a musician speak for him....
Agreed. To add, I've always said that the ones with the biggest mouths are the ones who are most afraid. I have miles of respect for the ones who keep quiet and let the music do the talking.
Always try your best but never forget that no matter how good you think you are there's always someone who can do it all a bit better.
Don't laugh. According to the RS article that name was a real possibility considered by the band and management when Sammy first joined.Van Hagar
Sammy nixxed it.
I prefer Sam Halen.
I admit that hate threads tick me off. Hating well known bass players is completely unbassmanlike. Whenever I see hate directed towards an influence of mine, I try to make sure I channel my irritation into actually PLAYING bass lines that I love.
in that case, my ship sailed when i was 17
i don't know who told you that, but if it were true, there would be nobody in the music business left.
in that case, my ship sailed when i was 17
i don't know who told you that, but if it were true, there would be nobody in the music business left.
Pretty much every one of my most favorite musicians have said something along the line of "music is not a competition". I guarantee you the top bassist, whether it be studio or touring, didn't get to where they are by trying to be better than someone else. They did it by focusing on their own qualities. It's one thing try to set yourself apart from others. It's quite another thing to focus on being better than others.
they all say that when the cameras are rolling. but put a couple of them up for the same gig and see what happens. yeah, obviously they focus on their own game most of the time, but if they didn't think they were better than most, they wouldn't be there.
I respectfully disagree. Whenever I tried out for a particular situation it wasn't becasue I thought I was better than the next guy. It was because I had enough belief in myself that I could stand on my own and could do good for that particular situation. And if they don't like me that's fine. There's nothing wrong about being confident in ones abilities. But when you start thinking you're better than most, that's arrogance and that will kill you quicker than anything.
prd004 said:
Just talked with my pops (keys in Black Opal), in that band MA played a fender bass of some sort through a Standell amp from the Standell factory visit they all went on. MA always played bass in that band, and sang in a deep voice. Wasn't till he (pops) heard VH 1 on reel2reel masters at MA's house before it pressed, that he ever heard MA sing falsetto. He said "what the hell is that? Are you singing those (backgrounds)?" MA: " yeah. I just did it once and (producer) says ""that's it. That's the SOUND!"". And yes, rock solid bass. Just had to check...
Just about everything in life a competion so I tend to agree.
I remember reading somewhere or a video on youtube with him talking about his VH vocals not being in his natural range and him having to work on that.
right. you never ever see arrogant musicians getting anywhere, do you?
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Unfortunatley you do and all too often. But sooner or later it catches up with them.
Seriously? I know he's a little muddled in the mix at times, but go LISTEN to the first 3 albums and learn some. Underrated player w/ amazing bg vox
Actually the presence of the B flat isn't enough to determine if the key is the relative minor of F major.
Typically to do that would require the existence of an altered tone that would allow the dominant (V) chord to be major.
Otherwise the key sig is simply F major.
I can remember doing Battle of the Bands night at Gazzarri's on the Sunset Strip with Van Halen (yes, I'm that old) and saying, "Look at these losers with their girl hair and spandex pants. These guys are never going to make it" Shows ya what I know, they beat us every time and look at them now.
That said, I like Van Halen, not my favorite by any means, but I like them. Like many, I waited years for a reunion tour to happen. Hearing news of a tour, I was really excited to get a chance to see them once again. When I heard Michael was out and they were using Eddie's kid on bass, I lost all interest.
And really guys, no offense, but I've said this before and I'll say it again. Some players are born to make an impact in the music world, but the Jaco's, Victor's, Stanley's and Ray Browns of the world are few and far between. The rest of us are "just the bass player", and Michael deserves credit for being part of one of the biggest bands in rock and roll history. When you've sold 60 million albums yourself, then feel free to criticize his playing.
That said, I like Van Halen, not my favorite by any means, but I like them. Like many, I waited years for a reunion tour to happen. Hearing news of a tour, I was really excited to get a chance to see them once again. When I heard Michael was out and they were using Eddie's kid on bass, I lost all interest.
And really guys, no offense, but I've said this before and I'll say it again. Some players are born to make an impact in the music world, but the Jaco's, Victor's, Stanley's and Ray Browns of the world are few and far between. The rest of us are "just the bass player", and Michael deserves credit for being part of one of the biggest bands in rock and roll history. When you've sold 60 million albums yourself, then feel free to criticize his playing.
+1000!! All I'll ever be is just one of the ordinary and that's okay.
I do have to mention that I remember hearing some tapes of Van Halen during thier bar days. To me they sounded like some young, sloppy bar band and nothing more. If I was sitting in the crowd back then and someone said to me "I'm telling ya, these guys are going to be mega-stars in a few years" I've would have thought you were insane.
Yeah, you never know.
