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Michael Anthony and Van Halen

#101
fourstringburn said:
This is for Mr. PRD400

I do know Michael Anthony has studied music in Jr. college and has played jazz with his father who was a horn player in a jazz band. I'm sure he is musically literate, meaning he can read.

If you are such a master musician than you should be able to read as well.
So define the measure of music you see below and tell me what scale the opening phrase is based off of and what note value is each note.

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Before someone questions my musicianship I will define the opening measure since PRD400 can't.

First off it is in the key of D minor because you see a B flat in the key signature. It is in common time otherwise known as 4/4 as noted by the C icon where the time signature is. It starts off with a 32nd note rest followed by a D melodic minor scale played in 32nd notes up and down then starts a new phrase starting on C sharp ending on E and ends the measure with a 1/4 note rest.

The name of this piece is Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue written by J.S. Bach.
 
#102
It's 004, and I never questioned your musicianship, I'm more mature than that. I DID question your taste!

PS, knowing that common time is also known as 4/4 doesn't make you smart or talented, anybody can learn music theory, it's not brain surgery and moreover, it's entirely possibly to know everything there is to know about theory without being able to play a lick! Where's your link smart @$$?
 
#103
prd004 said:
Well like I said there was no way I could win given the circumstances, but I was confident enough to put my playing out there none the less. Normally I would have just posted my links, let them speak for themselves, and bowed out of our argument gracefully, but you had to throw one more insult my way........

As for your "just a player who memorized a few patterns" that's just another base-less, immature insult added to the long line of them you have already thrown out today.

Once again you speak without knowing. I play four instuments, two professionally, I write, and I have a degree in sound engineering. And I never said I was a virtuoso, Victor Wooten is a virtuoso, John Paul Jones, James Jamerson, Jaco Pastorius, Chris Squire, Billy Sheehan, to name a few, these guys are virtuoso's. Michael Anthony is a basic, run of the mill, average rock bass player. I merely said I was better than him, and I still stand by that. Just about every musician I have ever played with would agree. You threw out the virtuoso term as if I had said it. The thing is the thread lives on long after the argument is over, and anyone can go back and read the posts and see that you have been putting words into my mouth all night long and then trying to use them against me, all because I don't think your boy is any good.
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You can dish it out but can't take it. Fact is you are nothing special, just a legend in your own mind. You said you write...write what, music? but you couldn't read a simple measure I put out for you. You been called out in here for what you are.
 
#106
There was no way on this thread it would have been judged any other way. I recall only two or three people chiming in on my playing. One of them was you, which I will dismiss, and I recall one guy even saying it wasn't bad. All we know about you is you like throw insults and brag about being able to read a line of music you copied and pasted off some website. I'm sure there was no explanation of the line on that page, yeah right!

Again, where's the link? I was man enough to put my playing where my mouth was, you just go with the mouth.
 
#110
Waterpilot said:
I don't agree with your views on MA 004... To each his own. But putting yourself out there with the link was pretty impressive under the circumstances...
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Thank you Waterpilot, I really appreciate that! I can agree to diagree with anybody, if we all liked the same stuff life would be boring!

But that fourstringburn guy was throwing jabs and insults at me all day long, really got me going! I should have been more mature and walked away, but what's done is done!
 
#113
My opinion on VH is total heresy. I actually liked the Hagar era, and hated the Roth years. It wasn`t necessarily the early music...I.Just.Could.NOT.Stand.Roth. He is the all-time obnoxious, grating, weasel of a frontman ever. I know the masses don`t agree with that, but that`s my opinion of them as a band. As far as MA...he did the job that the music called for. And did it well. He was the pulse of the band. I always liked him - he always stood out as the normal, nice guy in a band of schmucks. He and Hagar are better off without `em.
 
#114
hey guys, i can settle this...try to play the song "poundcake" and be right on the money with it. then try to sing backgrounds that high while playing it. michael anthony isn't going to win any bass player of the year awards, but that **** isn't as easy to do as you think it is. i've seen him live a couple times with van halen. his backgrounds are right on the money, and he plays very well and holds the band together even when alex is rushing and miscounting. you won't see fiery displays of bass heroism but who gives a crap? it's van halen. i think this is a silly discussion. michael anthony is a great rock bass player. end of discussion.
 
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#115
prd004 said:
OK, I'll bite even though this is a no-win scenario for me. There is no possible way that you will listen to my playing and give it fair judgement, given the current status of our back and fourth banter. Plus, if you really like this guys playing, as it is obvious that you do, I don't particularly agree with your judgement of talent, but........... I am a big enough person, and confident enough in myself to throw it out there anyway! Even if all the Michal Anthony lovers are going to roast me!

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And for the record I never said that I done anything of merit, I just stated that you had no Idea who I was and weather or not I had!
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OT and I'm not trying to but into any argument but I really dig you're playing on what I heard.
 
#116
I can't bothered to read all the vitriol aimed at MA in this thread. If you think he has no talent listen to his work on the Chickenfoot album. If you still think he's not any good then who do you think is good in a rock setting?

As for VH and EVH in particular, the recent shenanigans in that band = ego gone wild = fail. I'll stick with their old back catalogue and remember better, more sensible days.
 
#117
prd004 said:
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Most of this is stiff, boring and near grooveless for the most part.
Something MA is not, especially live (OK, sometimes he's boring...but it always fits).

But thanks for proving the (huge) majority's point.

If you don't like someone's style, fine. That doesn't make them "talentless". There are plenty of bassists that are great technicians who's style doesn't inspire me. They are far from talentless.
There are bassists that aren't near the technical players that many others are, but seem to keep coming up with great basslines.

If you listen to Rocco Prestia by himself on that first instructional tape he made, I was kind of shocked at how crappy his actual playing technique was. But boy does he come up with great stuff for within TOP.

I "get" a lot of stuff now that I didn't "get" when I was your age (you look young in the pix). Hopefully you will too.
 
#118
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that if you don't relax a little on being dis-respectable and bashing other members, you will neither make any friends NOR will you even be around long.
We all come from different backgrounds, lifestyles, have different likes and dis-likes. Nothing wrong with a friendly debate or disagreement but being outright RUDE with the name-calling will get you ZERO respect around here.

Regards,
David

prd004 said:
I never said I couldn't read it, once agin putting words in my mouth. The thing about pricks like you you think you're so smart and that you know everything. You're just a pompous loud mouthed jerk.

How about a link, butt-rock boy? What you can't play?????????????????????
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#119
oldno.7 said:
Yeah, he can't play . . .



:rolleyes:

Ok so Jaco or Victor Wooten he's not, but VH didn't need a virtuoso on the bass. They got rock solid playing and stellar background vocals to boot, nothing more nothing less.
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What's your point? It's one of the simplest songs ever. People talk about him like he's one of the greatest players ever. He's not. He did what was needed for the song but he is a much better vocalist than he has a bass player.
 

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