allright guys, thought i would throw this out here to see what you guys think, and you probably wont think much about this at all so i vicariously live my rock star fantasies through my son, and what is cool about this is at age 47, i can now play a little bit on the bass and i think it is great fun jamming with him and his friends in the basement, first musical instrument i have ever played. our complete repertoire of songs consists of paranoid, parts of iron man, most of smells like teen spirit, parts of lucretia my reflection (easy bass line), working on day tripper now, mainly bits and pieces of songs, for what its worth. he is pretty good on guitar but again limited repertoire. so last year, he and 3 of his friends and a girl singer (they were 12 then) did the talent show and did paranoid and did a good job and had a good time and like 900 people saw them. fast forward to this year... not much practice took place by the whole band since last year, maybe 3 times at best. the drummer took up tuba in the school band and gave his drum kit away (we still have one at the house he can use), the guitar player only wants to play slow country songs and his mom won't drive him 30 miles one way to practice, the singer, due a lot to parental influence, only wants to do 80's songs, and i want junior to play the hives tick, tick boom and do a hives freeze in the middle. junior used to play bass and still can, but likes wailing on his fender strat better... well first off there are too many parents involved, but the kids have to have rides to get anywhere to practice so we are definitlely stuck with some parental involvement. the kids skills are fairly rudimentary, we need to find one song now and dial it in. you can't "want" for the kids, the kids have to want to do it for themselves. but if they keep dilly dallying on song choice and getting froze out by guys that don't show up to practice, they have to wait another year to do it again. so we are now 2 months out from this years tryouts... here are the questions for you guys: The kids are playing the hives and that's final. Any questions? no the questions are, at what point do you cut off your current band and recruit new guys that want to do it? how do u cut your old guys (and good friends) off? how much do you try to consultatively guide everyone to a common goal? or the flipside of that is enforce your will on them all? there's probably more questions than that, but i will leave it at that.