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Mike Lull 5 string advice

hensonbass

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Feb 25, 2004
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My main gig bass is a Lakland Skyline JO5 with Fralin PU's and Thomastic Flatwound strings. I run it into a Radial J48 active DI and then monitor with in-ears buds. I set the pickups both full volume. If I try to back off the neck it losses too much low end to me so I always leave it full on.

The bottom line is it sounds great for the touring gig I do. I can always hear myself and the I get great feedback from others on how it sounds out front. The only downside is that the neck and string spacing is a little wide for my taste, but not so much that it's a deal killer. Especially for the money I have in it! :)

My friend is selling an older (pre 2000) Mike Lull M5 with the Seymour Duncan PU's and Bartolini pre. And man, that neck really felt great and I love the 18mm string spacing compared to the 19mm of the Lakland. It also weighed about 1-2 pounds less!:bassist: So I borrowed the bass for the week to check out on my gig. I was surprised that when I played this bass in active mode I couldn't cut through the mix anymore. If I went to passive it got better, but it didn't have the authority of the Lakland. I should say it had some roundwound nickels on, but could that have been the big difference? :eyebrow:

Anyway, I passed on the M5, but I'm wondering if I should be looking for another used passive or an active w/ bypass Mike Lull 5'er? Which models should I look out for that will duplicate the tonal ballpark I seem to like and maybe have a little more flexibility? I'm assuming his necks are uniform in all his 5er's. Or am I wrong?
 
Roundwound nickels versus flats makes a HUGE difference. My guess is, that is 80% of what you are experiencing.

A preamp will buffer the output, resulting in deeper bass and more 'hi fi' treble response, and a bit of loss in the grind area of the upper mids.....

That bass with those pickups in passive mode with the strings you typically use should make you very happy.
 
Roundwound nickels versus flats makes a HUGE difference. My guess is, that is 80% of what you are experiencing.

A preamp will buffer the output, resulting in deeper bass and more 'hi fi' treble response, and a bit of loss in the grind area of the upper mids.....

That's interesting. I definitely heard that loss of the upper mid area. I guess I should have tried switching the strings.

However, when you are in bypass mode you have no tone control and I do like to roll off some string brightness when needed.

M. Lull has a lot of models to choose from. Do they vary in tone much?
 
That's interesting. I definitely heard that loss of the upper mid area. I guess I should have tried switching the strings.

However, when you are in bypass mode you have no tone control and I do like to roll off some string brightness when needed.

M. Lull has a lot of models to choose from. Do they vary in tone much?

I'm not a Lull expert (I play 5 strings and at this point prefer 34" scale and full 19mm string spacing and full 1 7/8's nut width). You can find a lot of info about them on this site if you search. Also, TBer Vroomvroom knows a lot about them, so if he doesn't show up on your thread, PM him... he's a nice cat and a good player.

Most preamps now come with an option for a passive tone control (like on the Sadowsky and A-C basses), so that when you switch to passive mode, you have a classic J-Bass type configuration (vol/vol/tone or vol/blend/tone). It should be no problem for Lull to suggest a preamp with this option.
 
Lull's basses get customized a lot by thier owners, either before or after they leave Mike's shop. I have one from 1999 that has Bart PUs and pre in it. Others have Fralin's, and I know there are more combinations out there, just can't think of them now. Strings can make as much difference as electronics. There are a lot of people that claim to hear differences in woods, etc. I'm not one of them. To my ears, the only things on a bass that affect the sound in order are preamp, pups, and strings. Flatwound vs nickel is like having 2 different sets of electronics. You didn't give the bass a fiar try imho. The genral consensus is that they sit between a Fender and Sadowsky in sound. but this can depend on the electronics. Mine is darker than that given the Bart electronics.