I have a QSC K sub and a QSC KW181 sub. I know ideally I would have 2 of the same but I rarely have a need or the space to bring both. For those gigs when I need 2, can i use the k sub and kw181 together? I only put kick and bass through the subs.
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Mix and match subs
- Thread starter NickFromNY
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Hi.
I'd then put kick through one and bass through the other.
Or rather the appropriate frequencies of those sources into separate subs, but You do know what I mean.
Regards
Sam
I'd then put kick through one and bass through the other.
Or rather the appropriate frequencies of those sources into separate subs, but You do know what I mean.
Regards
Sam
If you have the 181 cranked, you won't hear the KSub.
We also have a KSub and 181 in the pen. The only time they would be out on the same job would be on separate stages... Or if one were driving an area to the side of a stage. Beer garden, food truck/vendor spaces where you want full but not necessarily blasting support as your main system is driving forward towards audience seating/ dance floor ... We do some small town fairs like that... Works great as your main system doesn't have to carry a full park and so it is more pleasant in front...
From a tone stand point I prefer the K sub most of the time. It's tight, punchy character is really nice sounding. I find the 181 to require more EQ to get it where I want it. The other guy who mixes for me doesn't. He likes the beef. So there is a matter of taste at play... The 181 has quite a lot more apparent volume though and if the routine calls for DJ, hip hop, reggae, (I wave off at metal...) ... The 181 is a better fit from a sheer volume standpoint.
From my perspective there would be no reason to carry both for 1 stage unless there were some extenuating circumstances. L shaped but damped room, etc...
We also have a KSub and 181 in the pen. The only time they would be out on the same job would be on separate stages... Or if one were driving an area to the side of a stage. Beer garden, food truck/vendor spaces where you want full but not necessarily blasting support as your main system is driving forward towards audience seating/ dance floor ... We do some small town fairs like that... Works great as your main system doesn't have to carry a full park and so it is more pleasant in front...
From a tone stand point I prefer the K sub most of the time. It's tight, punchy character is really nice sounding. I find the 181 to require more EQ to get it where I want it. The other guy who mixes for me doesn't. He likes the beef. So there is a matter of taste at play... The 181 has quite a lot more apparent volume though and if the routine calls for DJ, hip hop, reggae, (I wave off at metal...) ... The 181 is a better fit from a sheer volume standpoint.
From my perspective there would be no reason to carry both for 1 stage unless there were some extenuating circumstances. L shaped but damped room, etc...
Thanks for the input. A little more info... 6 piece band.. We are playing a big outdoor show. We have been using a single k sub with either 2 k10s on top or 2 yamaha dxr10s on top. Has been fine in most gigs, including mostly outdoor bar gigs. Always found the ksub to lack the thump we wanted so i picked up a used kw181 locally yesterday. For most gigs, 1 sub is fine. Would like to have the option of 2 subs for bigger shows. We would use the 2 sub set up maybe 4 times a year. By keeping the k sub, i could use it on smaller gigs and not have to take out the kw. For those 4 dates, i know it is not ideal, but could i get away with mixing both of those subs?
Hi.
No personal experience about those particular two subs, but the specs are IMO different enough not to run them together without EQing 'em to perform the same, which in turn would IMO make absolutely no sense.
If I had to run both of them for a reason or another, I'd still separate the tasks in order to avoid making things worse rather than better
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Regards
Sam
No personal experience about those particular two subs, but the specs are IMO different enough not to run them together without EQing 'em to perform the same, which in turn would IMO make absolutely no sense.
If I had to run both of them for a reason or another, I'd still separate the tasks in order to avoid making things worse rather than better
.Regards
Sam
So if I ran the kick into the 181 and the bass into the k sub, that would be my best bet? How about spacing on stage in that configuration? Side by side or split?
I don't know if I would put both those subs next to each other. Could be some weird phasing/cancellation going on. Since it is an out side gig I would put one on each side of the stage and call it good.
Are you sure there would not be any weirdness going on with 2 different types of subs right next to each other? It is generally not recommended practice to do that. I don't know if it makes a difference with 2 different instruments. Also it might be a pain to try and send different signals to different subs routing wise since we don't know what the Op is using for a mixer.
Using a Presonus Studiolive 16.0.2. Have an extra aux send to separate bass and kick. Usually run sub off of aux channels
Actually, passive resonance could be a problem having them sidebyside, better split them up a bit, still closer to the middle than the sides.
