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mixing 15 with 10
- Thread starter hairy_walnut
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Ok I'll bite the troll thread in the face....
Yes its not the most optimal set up if you are starting from scratch.
Hi and welcome to TB - you must be really new here because the topic comes up a lot - if you use the search you will find tons of info on the subject. In a nutshell, some say no, some yes, some say sometimes, and well you get the idea.
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If it's a choice of those two situations: the 210 + 115 is the better combination - at MODERATE volume.
I do that from time-to-time. Still ----> I can bark the 115 pretty easy though.
I do that from time-to-time. Still ----> I can bark the 115 pretty easy though.
If you like the sound of it, there's nothing wrong with it at all.
There are some issues that MIGHT arise and MIGHT cause less than optimal performance if they do. Or not. The key if you are using different cabs is to get ones that complement each other, meaning that the overall tone of each one fits well with the other (not necessarily that one goes a lot lower or higher than the other, although that can often help).
Experiment and find what you like and that's pretty much the end of it. The only "dangerous" thing is if you have a 4x10 and a 1x15 it might be easier to damage the 15 by giving it too much power (which the 4x10 might be able to handle just fine). 1 1x15 is slightly more speaker than a 2x10, so they are often pretty closely matched in terms of volume and power handling.
There are some issues that MIGHT arise and MIGHT cause less than optimal performance if they do. Or not. The key if you are using different cabs is to get ones that complement each other, meaning that the overall tone of each one fits well with the other (not necessarily that one goes a lot lower or higher than the other, although that can often help).
Experiment and find what you like and that's pretty much the end of it. The only "dangerous" thing is if you have a 4x10 and a 1x15 it might be easier to damage the 15 by giving it too much power (which the 4x10 might be able to handle just fine). 1 1x15 is slightly more speaker than a 2x10, so they are often pretty closely matched in terms of volume and power handling.
Phase issues come from differences in cabinet design and tuning due to differences in group delay, or by differences in passive circuits, not so much cone diameter. This can play a huge factor since more than likely the group delay will be different between the cabinet designs for a 2x10 and 1x15, especially if one is sealed and the other vented.
Comb filtering is caused by 1/4 wave interaction by speakers being placed a distance to where 1/4 wave length of played frequencies interact with each other. This is a spacing and orientation problem, not so much a cone diameter problem, not specific to 10's vs. 15's, but can be seen with same diameter drivers if played too high in the freq band.
The differences in walking around the room are not caused by the speaker enclosure, but by room nodes, or the resonant freq of the environment. Not much you can do about that, and the room sure doesn't care about your speaker sizes.
Basically, the suggestions of science are to use the same type of driver and enclosure as it eliminates unknown variables. But, there is nothing wrong with using different drivers if they work together and produce the sound you like. You may like the effects that phase differences and comb filtering produce in your sound profile. Chances are you will get more changes caused by diffraction and the environment than you will difference in cone sizes.
Comb filtering is caused by 1/4 wave interaction by speakers being placed a distance to where 1/4 wave length of played frequencies interact with each other. This is a spacing and orientation problem, not so much a cone diameter problem, not specific to 10's vs. 15's, but can be seen with same diameter drivers if played too high in the freq band.
The differences in walking around the room are not caused by the speaker enclosure, but by room nodes, or the resonant freq of the environment. Not much you can do about that, and the room sure doesn't care about your speaker sizes.
Basically, the suggestions of science are to use the same type of driver and enclosure as it eliminates unknown variables. But, there is nothing wrong with using different drivers if they work together and produce the sound you like. You may like the effects that phase differences and comb filtering produce in your sound profile. Chances are you will get more changes caused by diffraction and the environment than you will difference in cone sizes.
CL400Peavey said:
This is an entirely accurate statement to take into account when deciding. If you can test the combo and see if it works, great. Just don't buy blind.
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Why didn't you look at one of the threads on this subject that have come up on a semi-weekly basis for the last ten years instead of starting another one?
It's this bad: Youtube link
(two 2x10's, two 1x15's and no moderate volume)
Try and decide for yourself if it works for you.
I've tried combinations of same and different cabs and for me the 2x10 + 1x15 combi works best (EVM loaded Mesa Diesel cabs)
(two 2x10's, two 1x15's and no moderate volume)
Try and decide for yourself if it works for you.
I've tried combinations of same and different cabs and for me the 2x10 + 1x15 combi works best (EVM loaded Mesa Diesel cabs)
