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MonoNeon on Rhythm?
- Thread starter Dr. Cheese
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I've always thought about MonoNeon as Nile Rodgers on the bass just with better technique.
I'm glad MonoNeon found his true calling.
P.S. It's only my perception. I don't belong to ANY FANS' clubs; therefore, there is not need to get angry or emotional.
I've always thought about MonoNeon as Nile Rodgers on the bass just with better technique.
I'm glad MonoNeon found his true calling.
P.S. It's only my perception. I don't belong to ANY FANS' clubs; therefore, there is not need to get angry or emotional.
MonoNeon would have to show a WHOLE lot more than this before I said he had better technique than Nile Rodgers.
I was "heavily" influenced by Bernard Edwards and tried to rearrange cover (or original) songs we played by incorporating a lot of Mr. Edwards ideas, sounds, etc...
Also, I've learned the IMPORTANCE of Nile Rodgers' rhythm guitar parts. I used to study and analyze those rhythm guitar parts/fills/runs/etc... to better explain it to my guitar players; therefore, I still can identify those melodically-rhythmic guitar phrasings in some other musicians' works.
P.S. I agree with you completely that my comparison to Nile Rodgers was maybe slightly premature but...
I just wanted to say a compliment.
Part of what makes Nile Rodgers' sound so great is his "dirty" technique - and by "dirty" I don't mean bad (I think some people fail to distinguish between the two). Nile has a raw approach to his playing and sound. You can't play "clean" (clearly sounding each note in the chord) and sound like Nile.
...When a bass player uses that "dirty" technique, we call it nicely, "Ghost notes", "Muted notes", etc... but when Nile Rodgers uses the SAME technique while playing simultaneously 2 or 3, or 4 notes - it's "dirty" technique.
I think the effect is quite different (not sounding all of the notes in a chord vs playing ghost notes on bass). Maybe that's just me though.
When a bass player uses that "dirty" technique, we call it nicely, "Ghost notes", "Muted notes", etc... but when Nile Rodgers uses the SAME technique while playing simultaneously 2 or 3, or 4 notes - it's "dirty" technique.
Funky as hell is all I can say. I have encountered very few who know how to play funky rhythm guitar in that style. Nile Rodgers and Prince come to mind immediately. Ray Fuller. The guy who played with the George Duke Band comes to mind. I can't recall his name ATM (Jeff Lee Johnson?). Many guitarists don't know how to chop it up like that. They end up playing 'long' chords that take all the funk out of music! MonoNeon is a very talented dude. Hope to see him more on stage though. Youtube videos are nice but nothing beats playing with other musicians. I like Alissia too but her technique is too clean and technical for my taste. I like that raw Larry Graham, Louis Johnson, Mark Adams, Nate Phillips, Aaron Mills dirty, raw funk style of playing. Don't get me wrong. I do like her and her love for the Funk. Gotta keep the funk alive!
It might be Icarus Johnson or Roland Bautista who also played in EW&F. I also always dug Al McKay with EW&F for that style. Sadly the James Brown school of rhythm guitar seems to be fading.
Let's hope someone picks up the mantle. Prince was holding down the fort. The Funk bands that are still touring are getting older too.Funk in general is fading.
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When a bass player uses that "dirty" technique, we call it nicely, "Ghost notes", "Muted notes", etc... but when Nile Rodgers uses the SAME technique while playing simultaneously 2 or 3, or 4 notes - it's "dirty" technique.
I'm a little late on this but,I'm just seeing it for the first time so it's new to me
I'm not sure playing ghost and muted notes would be considered "dirty"...dirty bass or guitar playing is when you let the strings buzz a little or play kinda sloppy to get a perceived "dirty" sound out of the instrument...most times when players play ghosts or mute the strings,it's pretty clean...unless they intentionally play on top of the fret for certain effects. I think you're misunderstanding what he means by dirty...it's not an insult when we use the word dirty technique...we may also use,grease,grimey,stank,etc....but,it's a good thing!
A little late to the convo here but yes, Jef Lee Johnson played a bunch with George Duke. Also toured extensively with D'Angelo, was in the band when Isaiah Sharkey came on board, as far as I know. Incredible musician and person. He has solo albums on Apple Music etc. Check out "Hype Factory" if you get a chance!
