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More headroom needed & pre/power amp suggestions

BTW.... the Berg replaced a Genzler MG800 (that is now in the rehearsal studio with an Epifani 310 UL cab), and previous to that, a Demeter HBP1 Preamp running into a Crown XLS1500 (it's just sitting on the sidelines).

Just saying, the Berg can really perform.

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The Genzler

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Demeter and Crown
 
I've used preamps and power amps nearly my entire career. My first preamp was a Demeter VTBP-201. My last one will be, too. Just a great preamp that makes exactly what you put in it louder. Very satisfying every night I play it. Consistent room to room. Indoors or outdoors. In a variety of styles. I've tried em all. It is my favorite, unless tube type distortion is needed. Then I turn to my #2, an SWR Interstellar Overdrive.

The IOD is great. Two separate D.I. outs, variable level on the clean side. Clean, it resembles the Demeter enuff it's not a total shock. But add true tube Overdrive and it's a whole other monster.

Power amps I always use Crown. There are others out there, but I like Crown's sound and history, so I just look for one of em. QSC, Peavey, Crest and others all make great power amps, too. And if you like your current amp's sound, just need more power, you could probably slave just a power amp to your current amp's preamp.

I use big cabs, too. And with all my experimentation with filters and such, I've found it just as effective to roll my lows off on my preamp a bit as the volume increases. A lot of what I read about 410 cabs and what they supposedly lack is a bit crazy to me. I've used em forever and never had an issue hearing one. I learned my skills in another era, when no one had filters and compressors. Those were for the stars. We couldn't afford em. So we used the eq that came on our amps, learned what our cabs like and didn't, and part of what I learned was that my pulse could be communicated to the others in the band thru stage coupling. Cutting my lows to save speakers, yet still providing the pulse the other band members feel is an art. Putting my speakers on stands, eliminating coupling and lows with stands and filters left my bands less tight. And with bigger cabs, I can hear myself far better than with a small cabinet onstage. Right now my rig consists of a Demeter preamp, Crown power amp (it has a nice hpf if you want to use it) that provides 550 watts at 8ohms and 1100 watts at 4ohms, bridged. It can run four 8ohm cabs if I want, or just one with plenty of juice. I paid 450 fer my rig bout 2.5 years ago. It is killer. The Demeter never breaks up. Clean signal for days. Tight, articulate. And if you need more eq options, their H series preamp has parametric eq.

Today, tho, their are a frightful amount of both rack and floor preamps that would do what your asking very well. From simple ones like my Demeter and Alembic preamps, to "everything but the kitchen sink" models like the Darkglass stuff or old Eden Navigators. Any of them will work well. It's all really what you wanna sound like. There's an option for everyone. And they all work well if you spend time learning how they work. Each is a bit different. But that's why I like my Demeter. Simple, consistent and awesome! Luck on your search. And don't pass on a very old, but tried and true, pedal pre. I carry a SansAmp BDDI I use as a preamp on occasion with my Crown. Just fer fun. It is great! Especially when you don't want anyone to see what you're using. Heh.

I'm a Crown fan boy, so I totally agree with 'The Nameless' on this one! If your looking for a power amp for a bass rig, your going to have to look very hard to find anything better than the XLS 1002. Basic specs are 1100 Watts 4 Ohms and 700 Watts 8 Ohms (bridged mono), which works out well for modern bass cabs. And yes, you can select the input sensitivity on the XLS series so you can drive them to full power with something like a SansAmp BDDI, or other gear with 0.775v line output (you often need this capability for a bass amp rig).

Lots of bassists use the XLS series including the former XLS 1001 and now, the newer XLS 1002 with great success, and like 'The Nameless' says, Crown was there from the very beginning of the pro solid state amplifier revolution with their venerable DC300A. Crown has the Mojo!
 
I'm a Crown fan boy, so I totally agree with 'The Nameless' on this one! If your looking for a power amp for a bass rig, your going to have to look very hard to find anything better than the XLS 1002. Basic specs are 1100 Watts 4 Ohms and 700 Watts 8 Ohms (bridged mono), which works out well for modern bass cabs. And yes, you can select the input sensitivity on the XLS series so you can drive them to full power with something like a SansAmp BDDI, or other gear with 0.775v line output (you often need this capability for a bass amp rig).

Lots of bassists use the XLS series including the former XLS 1001 and now, the newer XLS 1002 with great success, and like 'The Nameless' says, Crown was there from the very beginning of the pro solid state amplifier revolution with their venerable DC300A. Crown has the Mojo!

I'm using an older Crown XLS1000. A hair less power than the newer blackface Crown XLS1002, and mine does not have variable input sensitivity. But it was a hundred bucks used. Sounds great, tho not QUITE like my old Microtech 1200, and even with its input sensitivity where it's set, my SansAmp, IOD and Demeter all sound great thru it. Weighs 8lbs, has turned on daily and nightly fer several years, makes my gigging life relaxed and easy. There are a lot of great amps out there. But mine's the equal of all of em. At least
 
Your correct, you would need a second cab. I doubt this i
Your correct, you would need a second cab. I doubt this is an option your interested in, but it would allow you to keep the tone and most of the feel of your Alpha Bass if you set it up right.

I've read up a little on biamping, and though I'm not looking to add cabs for now, I definitely want to try it at some point in the future.
 
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I've been using a GK 2001RB for over a decade to power my Aquilar Tone Hammer or a SWR IOD preamp. I like the idea that if the pre fails I can just plug into the instrument input on the GK and use it instead. Also, the 2001RB is LOUD AS HELL.
 
I gigged a '70s Bassman 100 for a long time.
Used an Aguilar TH500 a good bit too, but was always chasing that Bassman tone AND feel.

I wanted my Bassman, but with more modern appointments (like a DI) and a little more manageable package.

Already had the class D thing covered, and wanted a big amp - like a LH1000 or Aguilar DB750.

I settled on a pre/power rig.
Fender TBP-1 preamp and a Crate DCM 1000 power amp.
Incredible pre with about every feature you could want and never have to use.

I used the amp bridged (1000w) into my 212 cab (rated for 700w). Great match, great rig, tone was there, feel was there... just massive heft and power under your fingers.

Can't remember what the weight was, but not bad compared to the Bassman, and lighter than the DB750. I actually really like the 3U rack form factor too. Easy to transport, rugged, quick set up.

If I was getting into a power amp right now I'd look at the QSC GX5, or a Crest Pro-lite 2 or 3. It's fine to have more power than your cab is rated for as long as your not careless. It can be a nice feeling.

Lots of preamps out there and many can be had for a good deal.
 
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Berg is Best.... is all I can say.

And if you haven't tried it, may not have enough information for a good decision.

I'm currently running a Berg B|Amp with two Schroeder cabs (a dual 12" and a single 12") It cuts through everything, has a small stage footprint, lite weight, and easy to set up and use on stage.

The B|Amp head is the most versatile head I have ever used in over 50 years, period.

Bergantino Audio Systems
Not challenging your opinion, but I'm just curious—have you played a Walter Woods Electracoustic?
 
I've read up a little on biamping, and though I'm not looking to add cabs for now, I definitely want to try it at some point in the future.

I used to biamp. Even now I still own a head that can be set up for biamp operation. But I rarely do it anymore because todays high powered amps and cabs, especially the newer full range cabs available from companies like Greenboy, Audiokinesis, Bareface, etc. make it pretty much unnecessary. Biamping an instrument amp was a largely a brute force approach for dealing with the limitations of the bass amps that were available back then.

If you're heavily into effects I could still see doing the classic biamp (or separate bass and guitar amp) split. But the original reasons for biamping back in the 70s and 80s (greater clarity, better power handling, higher volume per watt, less mud) have long since been addressed by todays improved amps and cabs. So while you could biamp if you really wanted to, IMO there's seldom much reason to do it with today's gear.

Just my 2¢. YMMV
 
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I used to biamp. Even now I still own a head that can be set up for biamp operation. But I rarely do it anymore because todays high powered amps and cabs, especially the newer full range cabs available from companies like Greenboy, Audiokinesis, Bareface, etc. make it pretty much unnecessary. Biamping an instrument amp was a largely a brute force approach for dealing with the limitations of the bass amps that were available back then.

If you're heavily into effects I could still see doing the classic biamp (or separate bass and guitar amp) split. But the original reasons for biamping back in the 70s and 80s (greater clarity, better power handling, higher volume per watt, less mud) have long since been addressed by todays improved amps and cabs. So while you could biamp if you really wanted to, IMO there's seldom much reason to do it with today's gear.

Just my 2¢. YMMV

One day 10+ or so years down the road, when the kids have moved on, I hope I have the money, space and time to experiment with some
of the ideas I've read here on TB. Biamping will probably be one of many things on my tinker agenda.
 
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