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most technically advanced bassist?

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zazz said:
pleeeze....... i am not talking about fingers here ...just look at the neck ..a simple piece of wood ...its moving around at stupid acceleration ...its all sped up and been through the video effects mill....if you worked in video you would pick up on these elementary tell tell signs.....its just a promo rock video ..thats all it is!!!
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Rather than looking at the neck I'm looking at the fingers and listening to the music at the same time, knowing how to play that song helps too. That's accurate speed, video is shifty because theres a limit to frames per second and hes moving real fast.
 
#62
morf said:
Rather than looking at the neck I'm looking at the fingers and listening to the music at the same time, knowing how to play that song helps too. That's accurate speed, video is shifty because theres a limit to frames per second and he's moving real fast.
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Ha! So you're saying he's so fast that camera can't accurately show how fast he really is?? LOL! Sorry, but that's delusional and wishful thinking! :rollno:
 
#63
I find victor wooten's music kinda boring, im a fan of heavy metal especially ppl like cliff burton and steve harris. But wooten would slaughter them interms of technical abilities

but who really cares about technical abilities when you can make good music? that michael angelo guy can play 2guitars at crazy speed at the same time. but so what? he should be a stuntman or circus or somethin
 
#64
zazz said:
pleeeze....... i am not talking about fingers here ...just look at the neck ..a simple piece of wood ...its moving around at stupid acceleration ...its all sped up and been through the video effects mill....if you worked in video you would pick up on these elementary tell tell signs.....its just a promo rock video ..thats all it is!!!
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That's the real speed, no effects, believe it or not.

But anyway, I'm sure Alex would never claim to be even close to the skill level of people like Sheehan, Wooten, Willis, etc. Trust me on this one!;)
 
#65
Dr. Cheese said:
I hate to say it, but Suckbird is very young and his opinions reflect it. I seriously doubt if he would have such a low opinion of Victor Wooten if he continues to listen to music and play over the next five or ten years. That said, I really admire his writing skills in a second language. Very few native English speakers of any age could hang with him there.:cool:
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yes, although it is perhaps a shame that this thread is not here to rate our languange skills!
 
#66
Dr. Cheese said:
I think that many posters are conflating flash with technique. If I were a betting man, I would wager that many of the most technically advanced players are working in studios or maybe shows with lots of heavy sight reading. I would also wager that more than a few super technically advanced players often keep it simple. They employ their chops as needed, not as part of a show.:ninja:
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I think you just hit the nail squarely on the head there.

abark000 said:
Why don't you guys whip it out and see who is bigger?
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That would also work.
 
#69
MaskedJackal said:
I guess from what I know, I agree with Webster, but I think Steve is definitely competent in the jazz field. In fact, check out his fusion jazz project:

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Pretty impressive, I think.
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I listened! He still sounds like a metal bassist within a fusion context. I felt his best effort was with the bluesy tune! On most of the groove sections, I felt zero lock-in with the drummer! He was at his best during the unison sections! I thought it was okay. I definitely would not put that in the same class as true jazz fusion bands! Niacin would own them! Vital Tech Tones would own them! Tribal Tech would own them!
 
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DWBass said:
Oh, I don't think you've seen much of Wooten! And on the other hand, you are overrating the hell outta your death metal players! Have a listen to Tom Kennedy on Oleo (Tom Kennedy-Basses Loaded) or Rhythm-A-Ning (Dave Weckl-Live) and show me a death metal bassist who can hang! For that matter, show me a death metal bassist who can hang with Billy Sheehan! They're very one dimensional players! I'm sure there are some exceptions like the cats who also plays Stick (I can't recall his name at the moment).
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I think that is comming off as a bit of an ignorant statement, saying death metal players are all one demensional. Please further explain and substantiate this claim.
 
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metalstorm said:
I think that is coming off as a bit of an ignorant statement, saying death metal players are all one demensional. Please further explain and substantiate this claim.
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Well, I did say there were some exceptions! I've just never heard much if any! I can admit to being ignorant in regards to the genre but how about all the other cats dismissing the jazzer's abilities! Equally as ignorant if you wanna go there! The thread says 'most technically advanced bassist?' You say metal bassist, I say jazzer! I don't need to substantiate anything! Provide me an example of a death metal bassist playing another genre convincingly and I'll give him his props! Most jazzers can delve in and out of many different styles of music convincingly, IMO!
 
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DWBass said:
Well, I did say there were some exceptions! I've just never heard much if any! I can admit to being ignorant in regards to the genre but how about all the other cats dismissing the jazzer's abilities! Equally as ignorant if you wanna go there! The thread says 'most technically advanced bassist?' You say metal bassist, I say jazzer! I don't need to substantiate anything! Provide me an example of a death metal bassist playing another genre convincingly and I'll give him his props!
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You uh.....really, really like exclamation points, don't ya? :eyebrow::smug:
 
#75
DWBass said:
...Most jazzers can delve in and out of many different styles of music convincingly, IMO!
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I will have to second that. my teacher and his friends who went to the VCA(a local music school) all have their foudations in jazz, but they play with everyone and anyone. i don't like to think of jazz as a style, its more of a method that allows freedom of expression and vast knowledge of scales and theory. this can then be applied to any most other genres, and all we have to do is work on our technique.
 
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ras1983 said:
I will have to second that. my teacher and his friends who went to the VCA(a local music school) all have their foudations in jazz, but they play with everyone and anyone. i don't like to think of jazz as a style, its more of a method that allows freedom of expression and vast knowledge of scales and theory. this can then be applied to any most other genres, and all we have to do is work on our technique.
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In addition, many jazzers are a lot more open minded regarding other genres of music including metal!
 
#79
Diego said:
I would add Matt Garrison, Gary Willis and Alain Caron to that list.
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I'd go with all three of those and I'd include Adam Nitti (as you did when responding to the post to which you originally responded), possibly at the top.

I'd add Manring in there as well. That would probably be my top 5.
 
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