What up people. I have a question... What brands do offer the 3 coil version of the MM Stingray 5 pickup ? I know Seymour Duncan, Nordstrand, Bartolini. If you have made this mod already, can you please elaborate on how the tone changes? It is an easy mod to do? Thanks.
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Music Man sound and pickups
- Thread starter TonyP-
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Set your eq differently on bass and/or amp, use dr strings, get a bass setup. Ive played several and never had that problem and personally have mine set like i described....
I use Dr Marcus Miller strings, bass has been pro set up, I usually set amp more or less flat and EQ off the bass. Guess I'll fiddle with those settings at practice later today
Awhile back, I read a topic where someone said that they wired each coil of a single musicman pickup to a separate volume knob, so that it was vol/vol/tone, like a jazz bass. I was wondering, with both knobs full up, would it just sound like a musicman wired in parallel to one knob, or would there be some subtle difference?
Hello, I have a MM style 5 string bass that I had to rewire.
I've rewired exactly to this diagram...
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The problem im having is that the two volume controls cancel eachother out. I can have volume 1 full or volume 2 full... but if I have both volumes on the signal drops respectively.
any thoughts?
Thanks
I've rewired exactly to this diagram...
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The problem im having is that the two volume controls cancel eachother out. I can have volume 1 full or volume 2 full... but if I have both volumes on the signal drops respectively.
any thoughts?
Thanks
If your pickup is not a Seymour Duncan then the color coding of the pickup cable would not be the same.
So, if you find out which pair of the wires belongs to which coils then we can think about a solution.
If you have a multitester (=multimeter) you can desolder the green wire from the pot body and try to see which other wire shows resistance with the green.
So, if you find out which pair of the wires belongs to which coils then we can think about a solution.
If you have a multitester (=multimeter) you can desolder the green wire from the pot body and try to see which other wire shows resistance with the green.
Sounds like the pickups are out of phase. You need to swap one of the + wires from the pickup with one of the - wires. You just need to know which wires are which to do that 
O.K. I de-soldered the green and checked for resistance... nothing! But i tried all other configurations... this is what I got;
Vol 1 off, Vol 2 off= Red, Black, White show resistance
Vol 1 on, Vol 2 off= Red and White show resistance
Vol 1 off, Vol 2 on= Black and White show resistance
Vol 1 on, Vol 2 on= Red, Black, White show resistance
Never green with anything... What should I do?
I can follow diagrams but i'm still bad with the logic.
thanks
Vol 1 off, Vol 2 off= Red, Black, White show resistance
Vol 1 on, Vol 2 off= Red and White show resistance
Vol 1 off, Vol 2 on= Black and White show resistance
Vol 1 on, Vol 2 on= Red, Black, White show resistance
Never green with anything... What should I do?
I can follow diagrams but i'm still bad with the logic.
thanks
O.K. I de-soldered the green and checked for resistance... nothing!
...
Never green with anything... What should I do?
I can follow diagrams but i'm still bad with the logic.
It's strange. Are you sure there is no resistance between green&red or green&black or green&white?
If your meter has range select you should be measuring on like 20kohm range.
You don't need to put the pots to off position while measuring. Keep them on max.
When you say "Red, Black, White show resistance" it's confusing. You should write which two wires shows resistance and write down how many kohms the meter shows.
We'll try to figure out the coil connections when you write down the resistance values between the wires. And again: Put the pots on max while measuring.
Surely as long as the other three of the connectors are still soldered into the wiring setup, there'll be a measured resistance between them all (granted, it should vary beyond the expected coil resistance).
Well then I'll have to do that then. What am I looking for after? How would I apply that to the current diagram I posted earlier?
Thanks
Thanks
There are two coils inside your pickup.
You're looking for the coil resistances like 2-6 kohm.
After finding out the coil connections you'll do the wiring accordingly:
'a front coil wire' to 'front coil pot lug'
'a rear coil wire' to 'rear coil pot lug'
Other two wires and the bare wire to the ground.
If you still have the same problem you'll swap the connections of one coil.
Also, see these:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/pickup-polarity-angst-796016/
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/quad-coil-wiring-993740/#post14504141
You're looking for the coil resistances like 2-6 kohm.
After finding out the coil connections you'll do the wiring accordingly:
'a front coil wire' to 'front coil pot lug'
'a rear coil wire' to 'rear coil pot lug'
Other two wires and the bare wire to the ground.
If you still have the same problem you'll swap the connections of one coil.
Also, see these:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/pickup-polarity-angst-796016/
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/quad-coil-wiring-993740/#post14504141
Ok, cool.
And you are getting no connection between other combinations right?
If following the diagram you posted earlier, swap the white and black wires.
That way you'll have a volume wired to each coil. However, I couldn't tell you which coil is which and I couldn't tell you if they'd be in phase or not
So, if the sound dies down and becomes really thin sounding when you have both pickups turned up, they'd be out of phase and you'd need to swap one of the pairs around (green and white for instance).
Soo I think I can figure out which wire is for which pup using my meter and a piece of metal....
ill let you know what happens. Thanks everyone.
ill let you know what happens. Thanks everyone.
So... green and white are from the neck coil.
I connected everything back up and, again, the pots seemed to cancle one another out, so I swaped out the two wires from one coil. .. and viola!!!
New problem is the humming humbucker. Lol
I understand that the way to fix this is to swap the.polatiry of one of the coils... but isnt that just going to give me back my original problem?
Thx
I connected everything back up and, again, the pots seemed to cancle one another out, so I swaped out the two wires from one coil. .. and viola!!!
New problem is the humming humbucker. Lol
I understand that the way to fix this is to swap the.polatiry of one of the coils... but isnt that just going to give me back my original problem?
Thx
Congrats!
No, the problem is you're trying to use a humbucker as two single coils (like on a jazz bass).
This configuration will buck the hum only when the volume pots are on equal level (like on a jazz bass).
No, that is not the way to fix it. Swapping the polarity isn't gonna fix the hum problem.
If you want a humbucker to function properly you should connect it as a humbucker. i.e. coils connected in series or parallel.
I know there are some OLP basses wired like yours but they're not configured to function without hum in any volume pot setting. And that's not a good way to utilze a humbucking pickup.
See these:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/olp-music-man-whats-511320/#post9789198
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/music-man-humbucker-two-volume-pots-973066/
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/olp-steroids-862599/
