I've owned a Stingray 5 with maple and Vintage sunburst, most beautiful bass I've owned, flawless finish, built like a tank, hated that I needed to treat the neck once in a while, but that's ok. I owned a Thumb BO4, most killer tone, ... ever, not very comfortable standing up, traded it for the fretless version, then sold the fretless. Both BO4's had the ovangkol neck. Now I'm buying the Thumb BO 5 with the wenge neck, can't wait till I get used to the string spacing. I've played the Alembic Epic, I liked the Thumb tone more, the stingray tone less. I never got along with the Stingray tone. All that scatterbrained stuff being said, my Warwick star bass 4 Pro Series still kills the thumb and ray in the useable, versatile tone category, but it's passive so apples to oranges.