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My bass weighs a ton..

#21
First, yes this bass has a sound you would not believe! It's a noodler's nightmare, because near everything you play sounds so crazy awesome, it's easy to get distracted and not actually practice. Now for real the advice I got on here is fantastic, and for the most part so much more in depth and useful than I could have reasonably expected. Thank You!

-Malak..I have rotator cuff and labrum tears already, so I appreciate the caution. I do P90X right now, so Ab Ripper X is a staple as is Yoga X. I can flip my legs over into Plow pretty easily, and I can do Crane. If you have any specific exercises to strengthen me up, I'm ready to do it. Thank you for your obvious altruistic care.

May look into a more advanced strap. Thanks again everyone. You guys ROCK!!!
 
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Iridescentone said:
What makes you think fatties are a minority? Everywhere I go, I see obesity. I could almost agree with that Nazi Bloomberg about the 16 oz soft drinks!
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<sigh> Okay, I'm not going to hijack mcglyph's thread anymore past this post, but this needs to be addressed. So, here it is.

Speaking as someone in a branch of the health profession, I have seen all different body-types. Among them are people who are predisposed to being thin, no matter how many calories they consume. Then there are people who, no matter what they do or how they eat, will be, short of taking incredibly drastic measures, heavy. The vast majority fall in-between these two extremes…emphasis on "majority". That's where I draw the difference between minority and majority.

I say "safe minority to safe minority to mock openly and publicly" for one simple reason; if I were to call someone out based on their weight, along with all the stereotypes associated with it, I'd be labeled as "rude", "a jerk" or "an outright @$$hole" by some, but there would be other callous pr!cks who would laugh their heads off and agree with me…openly and loudly. But if I were to call someone out based on a racial slur, the stigma that would fall over me instantaneously…"racist", "bigot", you name it…can cause a severe social backlash. And not just among strangers or casual associates, but long-time friends.

So that's why I say it's so much easier (in this country, anyway) to get away with mocking a person for being heavy, even if they cannot help it, than it is to tear into someone because of the color of their skin…which also cannot be "helped", not that it's something that needs to be "helped" in the first place.

P.S.: I feel the great and overwhelming need to point out Godwin's Law here. To put it simply, the first person to play the "Nazi Card" has already lost the debate…especially when using such a label against someone of the Reformed Judaism faith. o_O
 
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"P.S.: I feel the great and overwhelming need to point out Godwin's Law here. To put it simply, the first person to play the "Nazi Card" has already lost the debate…especially when using such a label against someone of the Reformed Judaism faith."
As mentioned here previously, some CHOOSE to be altruists, while others CHOOSE to be Nazi-like:
it is what it is, regardless of the color one chooses to repaint it, or make laws against it, or try to 'be superior than others' by their statements. Some actually believe they are.
 
#28
On topic:
A good exercise program working the previously mentioned areas and incorporating a bit of endurance training using those exercises will boost your metabolism which in turn will make all the other things including re-building of tissues come together.
 
#29
Malak the Mad said:
<sigh> Okay, I'm not going to hijack mcglyph's thread anymore past this post, but this needs to be addressed. So, here it is.

Speaking as someone in a branch of the health profession, I have seen all different body-types. Among them are people who are predisposed to being thin, no matter how many calories they consume. Then there are people who, no matter what they do or how they eat, will be, short of taking incredibly drastic measures, heavy. The vast majority fall in-between these two extremes…emphasis on "majority". That's where I draw the difference between minority and majority.

I say "safe minority to safe minority to mock openly and publicly" for one simple reason; if I were to call someone out based on their weight, along with all the stereotypes associated with it, I'd be labeled as "rude", "a jerk" or "an outright @$$hole" by some, but there would be other callous pr!cks who would laugh their heads off and agree with me…openly and loudly. But if I were to call someone out based on a racial slur, the stigma that would fall over me instantaneously…"racist", "bigot", you name it…can cause a severe social backlash. And not just among strangers or casual associates, but long-time friends.

So that's why I say it's so much easier (in this country, anyway) to get away with mocking a person for being heavy, even if they cannot help it, than it is to tear into someone because of the color of their skin…which also cannot be "helped", not that it's something that needs to be "helped" in the first place.

P.S.: I feel the great and overwhelming need to point out Godwin's Law here. To put it simply, the first person to play the "Nazi Card" has already lost the debate…especially when using such a label against someone of the Reformed Judaism faith. o_O
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You can believe in anything you want, even Mike Godwin's "law" if it supports your PC belief system. Just don't expect everyone else to.
 
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JustForSport said:
As mentioned here previously, some CHOOSE to be altruists, while others CHOOSE to be Nazi-like:
it is what it is, regardless of the color one chooses to repaint it, or make laws against it, or try to 'be superior than others' by their statements. Some actually believe they are.
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That's right, and Bloomberg has chosen repeatedly to trample on people's liberty with his intrusive dictates. He doesn't care one wit about your constitutional rights. That's how nazis/fascists act, regardless of their professed religion or ethnic heritage. If it walks like a duck...
 
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I can't believe I see the word Bloomberg in a Talkbass forum. He is a tool. Pretty much the only news worth watching is ESPN. If it makes it to FB then I pay attention otherwise it all turns out to not mean much of anything. Anyway, the bass sounds crazy awesome, and now that I'm playing it every day, any pain I had does not seem to be exactly related to the bass weight. As mentioned before, I work out hard, so perhaps my hurt prior was just cause the muscles were sore in that area. I'm now in LOVE with this bass. And fretless in particular.
 
#32
deadlifts for lower back strength
Dumbbell shoulder press for delt strength
Dumbbell shrugs for increase trap mass/strength
rear delt flys, face pulls for rear deltiod strength, they support the shoulder a fair amount.

pretty much, get into bodybuilding.
 
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mcglyph said:
I can't believe I see the word Bloomberg in a Talkbass forum. He is a tool. Pretty much the only news worth watching is ESPN. If it makes it to FB then I pay attention otherwise it all turns out to not mean much of anything. Anyway, the bass sounds crazy awesome, and now that I'm playing it every day, any pain I had does not seem to be exactly related to the bass weight. As mentioned before, I work out hard, so perhaps my hurt prior was just cause the muscles were sore in that area. I'm now in LOVE with this bass. And fretless in particular.
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The weight of the instrument may be just one element here. Others have mentioned easing the weight with a good strap, and that's one approach. Another is exercise to build up some strength. Also good advice.

Another approach in addition to those above? First, HOW you're wearing the instrument. The position from which you're holding the instrument is going to have a significant impact on your body. And are you hunching over slightly to look at your fingerboard while you're playing? These are all things to keep in mind. I've actually spoken with my chiropractor about bringing my bass in to one of my appointments so that he could help me improve my form so that I wouldn't be playing in pain. If you have a chiropractor or similar healthcare professional that you work with, consulting with them might be something you'd like to consider, too.
 
#35
I recently bought one of those "slinger straps" that use a combination shoulder/belt strap, because my back's been hurting a lot after 3-set gigs recently and I had a 5-set gig coming up.....only got the chance to use it at the one long gig so far but was very pleased with the result. Made a bigger difference than I expected. I need to make a padded strap cover for it tho as the strap itself is just the nylon belt/webbing, not a big fan of that material.
 
#36
peterbright said:
I use a 4 1/2" thickly padded Levy's Leathers strap and that does the trick for me. Stopped trying to find ultra light basses that sounded great.
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Here here... Thick leather straps are a heavy bass owner best friends... I have one of those Levy's on my Parker Guitar and a similar one on my Geddy Lee... Helps disperse the wait a little more evenly and all of a sudden it ain't so heavy...

Also I concur on the heavy basses sounding great... I kept jumping back and forth between basses and then realized one day that every bass I enjoyed didn't have body routing to save weight and all of the ones that did sounded blahh to me... Thats when I decided on my GL
 
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#39
Traditional single strap designs are very easy to take on/off----but there are much better designs to hang 7 - 10 pounds off your front. You know, like dual straps, etc. It's the same with backpacks. Those 'modern' single strap bakcpacks are cool or whatever, but impractical for carrying anything but your lunch.

Heck, even putting your head through the adjustment loop on a normal strap, gets you halfway to a dual strap.
 

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