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my cab idea

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draginon

Oct 4, 2004
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I am in the market for a cab in the next couple months to mate with my SWR WM4004 and am only looking to spend around $275 max. I know this doesn't leave me with many options (goodbye bergantino, aguilar etc..). I saw a peavey 210 cab at guitar center for $180. I was thinking of getting a cab like that and swapping the speakers out for some kappa pros or even some eden XLT's if I could find out how to get my hands on two of them. (they handle frequencies as low as 30hz, lower than most 12s and a lot of 15s)

Would this be a bad idea? I've heard people talk about tuning cabs but have no idea what that means. Would it apply to this project that I may pursue?
 
#2
Well.. a cabinet is build to be a good housing for the speakers which are inside of it. Different speakers means that you need a different housing for them. Because the speakers are different, they will react different from eachother.

Therefore you can do what you suggested. But if it sounds good? :smug:
 
#3
Kilian. said:
Well.. a cabinet is build to be a good housing for the speakers which are inside of it. Different speakers means that you need a different housing for them. Because the speakers are different, they will react different from eachother.

Therefore you can do what you suggested. But if it sounds good? :smug:
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thanx thats all I need to know..

I'll check out avatar
 
#4
kappa pros or even some eden XLT's if I could find out how to get my hands on two of them. (they handle frequencies as low as 30hz, lower than most 12s and a lot of 15s)
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Not so. Kappa Pros are PA midbass drivers, not well suited for electric bass, ideally tuned they're only good to 150-200 Hz. Eden's don't go particularly low either. As previously stated drivers and enclosures must be properly matched.
 
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billfitzmaurice said:
Not so. Kappa Pros are PA midbass drivers, not well suited for electric bass, ideally tuned they're only good to 150-200 Hz. Eden's don't go particularly low either. As previously stated drivers and enclosures must be properly matched.
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I was referring to the kappra pros used in avatar 210s and 410s... THe eden XST (210) handles frequencies as low as 30hz.

THank you for the info though. I thought it was as easy as just swapping out old speakers and replacing them with new ones
 
#8
I was referring to the kappra pros used in avatar 210s and 410s
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So am I. They are fine drivers but they were never intended to be run alone on electric bass. Combined with 15s to handle the bottom they work very well.
THe eden XST (210) handles frequencies as low as 30hz.
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Only in their advertising copy. Bruce Gavin has measured Edens and found that they have a decided midbass hump and don't go low. Check out was he has to say in this thread:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217326
 
#9
eh :(((

what about getting a 1x12 from avatar? I usually scoop my mids to get my desired tone but don't scoop high mids as much. I am looking for a cab that can get\handle a defined boomy p-bass type sound (4string). Will a 1x12 from avatar paired with my WM4004 get me in the vicinity of my desired sound? I am definitely not into a middy sounding (or even jaco tone) tone.
 
#10
I can't recommend any particular cabinet or brand, I can only render an opinion as to how a particular driver will work. You can too by downloading the freeware WinISD program from linearteam.org and use it to predict the low frequency response of any driver. A good book on speaker design, such as those by Dickason, Weems or Alden, will help you understand what the program is telling you. Taking some time to educate yourself in how loudspeakers work can save you a lot of money in the long run.
 
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billfitzmaurice said:
Not so. Kappa Pros are PA midbass drivers, not well suited for electric bass, ideally tuned they're only good to 150-200 Hz. Eden's don't go particularly low either. As previously stated drivers and enclosures must be properly matched.
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Not so true about the Kappa Pros. I have an Avatar B410 Kappa pro and the things sounds great and can take every bit of low frequency I throw at it.
 
#17
ihixulu said:
You want the boom but not the size for a fast food budget. Ain't gonna happen.
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perhaps u are right

ricosuave2093 said:
Not so true about the Kappa Pros. I have an Avatar B410 Kappa pro and the things sounds great and can take every bit of low frequency I throw at it.
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thats what i thought !!. the kappa pros are supposed to be able to handle the lowest frequencies out of all the kappa 10s... somewhere around 45hz
 
#20
fourstring44 said:
I have an Avatar SB112 with the Delta LF and I must say it sounds like what you are looking for. Quite a bit of lows for a single 12 a litlle shy in the upper mids for me, but it it is pretty impressive for a $200, 40LB CAB


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Sounds like a good deal. I read the specs and I think that the 2x12 will fit in the front or even back seat of my vw bug so I might just go 2x12. I wish I had the opportunity to try before I by.

When u say shy in the upper mids, u mean that they aren't as strong\full as the lows and lower mids? Does it sound balanced? As far as the highs, is there a good amount of clarity? I've heard the tweeters in avatar cabs are pretty powerful. How transparent is the sound?
 

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