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My completely wrong Church "Rig" that sounds great

PointBlank

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Jul 28, 2014
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After about a year and a half of trying to get a decent sound in a Church band I think I finally really like the sound. But it took a lot of experimenting with different gear to get there. The trick was that the sound guys don't want to fight an onstage Bass amp. So I pieced together a technically incorrect "Rig".

I use a Lakland Skyline Jazz 5 with Fralins and Audere preamp, strung with D'addario tapewounds for a nice clean fundamental thump. Yes, I would love to have an Upright Bass, but $ says this is as close as I can get and the Lakland is more versatile. Which is very nice.

Then get this, because I can't play into a bass amp, I go into a old Alesis GT (guitar) Quadraverb for added clean boost and sometimes just a hint of reverb when using a foam mute under the strings. The trick with the GT Quadraverb is that you have to go in and store presets with the preamp volumes turned WAY down or completely off. It may seem like a pain but it's worth it because with all the other eq and effects you can make some nice ambient or thick delay sounds. I made an Upright Bass sounding preset with some dull sounding reverb and a little boost in the mid and high frequencies. But the thing has Much more under the hood.

Then out of the rackmount Alesis into a MarkBass tube Compressore' that goes into the snake that feeds the sound guys mixing board. That's right I put the compressor at the end of the chain. Probably wrong I'm sure, but my thinking was that I didn't want to overload the old house speakers and make them distort my sound. The MarkBass makes it easy because by setting the threshold level just so the little yellow light comes on only when playing at your loudest level. So it's only compressing then. I guess you can say that my goal is too try NOT to play the compressor then, its there for taming the volume spikes and hopefully sounding pretty natural while doing it.

My main amp is a Genz-Benz streamliner 900 but doesn't get out much anymore. Someday Im going to sneak my back-up amp, a MarkBass Little Mark II in as my preamp for Church, since you can play those without a speaker cabinet. Then I can bring out and try my favorite passive Basses!

When practicing at home with the same rig with my Lakland and the mute it sounds a little too dry and dull. But at Church its like I almost have all the sustain I need and puts a grin on my face every time I get to hear it. Sunday mornings are quickly turning into my best "tone" day.

Groove on.
 
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I use my compressor at the end of my chain too, and I think it sounds great. :)

Curious...why don't you bring your Streamliner in and use it for its DI function? You might even get a hint of natural compression from the preamp tubes. Compared to a Compressore, it isn't that much bigger...
 
Curious...why don't you bring your Streamliner in and use it for its DI function?

Because then I would have the Bass cabinet running on stage and that's frowned upon at this time. ...but someday!
I really don't want to run the 900 watt streamliner with D.I. out only. I hear that might be safe but I'd rather not try it, plus I feel safer to use the MarkBass head that way.
Besides I'm more than happy with the sound now and being able to carry every thing in one trip. I'll save the Streamliner with matching Uber 15 and Quad cabinet's for the loud gigs.

Thump on.
 
FYI, the Streamliner is totally safe to run as DI only. The only amps you have to worry about doing that with are amps that are all tube (or more specifically, power tube).

Because then I would have the Bass cabinet running on stage and that's frowned upon at this time. ...but someday!
I really don't want to run the 900 watt streamliner with D.I. out only. I hear that might be safe but I'd rather not try it, plus I feel safer to use the MarkBass head that way.
Besides I'm more than happy with the sound now and being able to carry every thing in one trip. I'll save the Streamliner with matching Uber 15 and Quad cabinet's for the loud gigs.

Thump on.
 
I really don't want to run the 900 watt streamliner with D.I. out only. I hear that might be safe but I'd rather not try it, plus I feel safer to use the MarkBass head that way.

Thump on.
Your Streamliner amp was designed specifically to be used without a speaker cabinet. There is nothing unsafe about it.