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My dad doesn't like Paul McCartney :(
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Cuz he doesn't like Paul and I do. Tongue in cheek, dude.
"Why so serious?" Stay cool, stay cool..
"I've never known of a songwriter like John Lennon, who switches time signature constantly, because he simply pays no attention whatsoever to structure of rhythm. He just writes what he feels, and it results in amazing stuff".
Yes amazing stuff, but wrong about the rhythm. Lennon was the second best rhythm player I've heard after Django Rheinhardt, when he would go over to rhythm to let someone else take the lead. Lennon's chords , themselves, often included Django configurations - just mind blowing fingerings. If you isolate Lennon's playing you'll hear just how good he was, especially on their first 5 albums.
It is heresy of the highest order not to like McCartney's playing. He'll burn in eternal damnations without relief till the end of time. Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.
Yes amazing stuff, but wrong about the rhythm. Lennon was the second best rhythm player I've heard after Django Rheinhardt, when he would go over to rhythm to let someone else take the lead. Lennon's chords , themselves, often included Django configurations - just mind blowing fingerings. If you isolate Lennon's playing you'll hear just how good he was, especially on their first 5 albums.
It is heresy of the highest order not to like McCartney's playing. He'll burn in eternal damnations without relief till the end of time. Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.
Derivative of contemporary popular music, written by someone else, and played by session guys describes a tremendous amount of jazz
Au contraire, mon frère! Lennon WAS a great rhythm player, but I'm saying when he wrote songs, he paid no attention whatsoever to rhythm STRUCTURE. He had a natural feel for it, so he would switch up any time the mood struck him.
Check out poor Alan W. Pollack, trying to make sense of Happiness is a Warm Gun:
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"but I'm saying when he wrote songs, he paid no attention whatsoever to rhythm STRUCTURE".
I think we agree, but I'd say that he did pay attention, but decided to change things in unexpected ways. Even in "She's a Woman" they had 1 bar of 3 beats versus 4 intentionally to see if anybody would pick it up. Sly devils.
I think we agree, but I'd say that he did pay attention, but decided to change things in unexpected ways. Even in "She's a Woman" they had 1 bar of 3 beats versus 4 intentionally to see if anybody would pick it up. Sly devils.
Yaknow, I've been a Beatles fan my whole life... and I don't like Paul McCartney!
Your dad's in good company.
Your dad's in good company.
Anyone is free to like or dislike anything they choose. Who cares? But at least get the facts right. The Beatles to a man were huge Motown fans, and would tell anyone how they were inspired by them. What's wrong with that?
As for 'ghost writers' and 'session players', ol' dad is talking out his a$$. Unless he believes Bernard Purdie's nonsense, there were no such things, other than someone to play an instrument they were not proficient in (other than Clapton on one song, and Billy Preston for about six weeks of studio work). So dad needs to back up his B.S. with proof.
It was Ozzy Osborne who said, "Saying you don't like the Beatles is like saying you don't like air!"
As for 'ghost writers' and 'session players', ol' dad is talking out his a$$. Unless he believes Bernard Purdie's nonsense, there were no such things, other than someone to play an instrument they were not proficient in (other than Clapton on one song, and Billy Preston for about six weeks of studio work). So dad needs to back up his B.S. with proof.
It was Ozzy Osborne who said, "Saying you don't like the Beatles is like saying you don't like air!"
I meet a lot of folks who absolutely hate Paul McCartney's solo career and Wings, and write him off completely kind of in the same way some people write off God and religion because they perceive it to be the cause of all the evils in the world.
I think McCartney is a brilliant songwriter and artist. I don't like all of his output. Frankly, some of it, I can't listen to.
But, I can only listen to a handful of Beatles songs anymore. I was a Beatles fanatic but listened to the music so much, and got so immersed into Beatles lore, that I oversaturated myself with their music and legend. I've actually developed an aversion to their music and to their story.
I think McCartney is a brilliant songwriter and artist. I don't like all of his output. Frankly, some of it, I can't listen to.
But, I can only listen to a handful of Beatles songs anymore. I was a Beatles fanatic but listened to the music so much, and got so immersed into Beatles lore, that I oversaturated myself with their music and legend. I've actually developed an aversion to their music and to their story.
Motown indisputably had a big influence on the Beatles. Among other things, they covered Motown tunes like "Money," "Please Mr. Postman" and "You've Really Got a Hold on Me," and McCartney has been quoted as saying that Jamerson was the biggest influence on his bass playing.
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Not at all. Sure, you'll find cats who don't like 'em, but I've done jazz gigs where the leader included a Beatles tune in the set -- jazzified, of course. "Michelle" in particular lends itself nicely to a jazz treatment.
They wrote some great songs, and in general it's only the jazz purists who'd dislike them on principle.
