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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

I've been at a small private jam last night. Here's my report on the new pedals that I've not tested with others:

-Horrothia Type One Chorus: I feel like I can safely proclaim my Chorus thing is over. This pedal is great and works well in a mix.

-Dunlop Bass Mini Wah: It's still squeaky although I gave every crucial bit that I could find a small blob of grease, but in a mix, you don't hear the pedal squeak, and playing loud(ish), I could not even feel it through my foot. What I could hear was the mwah. Very vocal, quite chewy. I have the one knob it has to edit the sound set to max, of course. The bandpass nature of the thing makes it work well even with no other pedals playing into it, when you play it right.

-Effectrode Tube Drive: Not exactly a new addition, but I brought it yesterday because when you run the gain at noon, it's a brutal funk machine with the wah.
But it also surprised at low gain levels. The dirt is quite gentle, even though there is a lot of it, and it works beautifully.

We played one song where the guitar player looped a chord progression that sounded like the intro of a metal song - he even said as much. We toyed around on that, creating a weird hybrid of Scandinavian 90's metal and Elevator Jazz. I could run a lot of dirt into that lick and experiment with the wah - playing straight 8ths and a very simple line, but then providing the rhythmic accents by pressing down on the wah felt really cool.

At this point, I'm back to pondering how to mount the Effectrode on the board in a way that makes sense.
I thought I had always read here that the Dunlop 105Q and Bass Mini wahs were low-pass filters vs the typical bandpass of most wahs? I’ve never tried one, but I’ve seen it said here often.
 
I thought I had always read here that the Dunlop 105Q and Bass Mini wahs were low-pass filters vs the typical bandpass of most wahs? I’ve never tried one, but I’ve seen it said here often.
Now that you say it, it could be that it is indeed a low pass, but then it has a freakishly high resonance that creates spikes in the upper mids so strong, you're under the impression the low end drops.
 
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Now that you say it, it could be that it is indeed a low pass, but then it has a freakishly high resonance that creates spikes in the upper mids so strong, you're under the impression the low end drops.
I’m kinda surprised I’ve never owned one! I had a previous Dunlop bass wah that I received as part of a multi piece trade that was terrible, but the 105Q always seemed pretty cool in theory
 
I’m kinda surprised I’ve never owned one! I had a previous Dunlop bass wah that I received as part of a multi piece trade that was terrible, but the 105Q always seemed pretty cool in theory
All I can report so far is that it totally is! You can't do the intro for N.I.B. (I believe the term is "Cocked Wah Sound", because it disengages as soon as you take your foot off, but you get a pedal that's normal pedal sized and which will engage and disengage like the Morleys do, by simply using it - and the sound is quite pronounced.
 
Arrived, giving this lovely green thing a go. I had one a year or so ago, but it had an odd bypass quirk that they have now corrected. It's a guitar amp recreation, but sounds very good on bass. Notable that the Depth is bass pre drive while the bass control is bass post drive. A side is pretty clean with an amp-ish tone. B side drive is in the Xotic BB Preamp ballpark.

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I hope all you people survived the holidays, have not gone to jail for throttling in-laws over Christmas-dinner-disputes and escaped with your health and sanities intact.

The Becos comp is actually made to order and I got a mail that they started working on mine on the 29th, so I am hoping to receive a tracking number soon.


After the Messenger Jr. seller had replied once, that chat has tumbleweeds rolling again and my hopes of getting any kind of reply (or a pedal) out of that are somewhat slim by now, so I started looking elsewhere again.
 
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Arrived, giving this lovely green thing a go. I had one a year or so ago, but it had an odd bypass quirk that they have now corrected. It's a guitar amp recreation, but sounds very good on bass. Notable that the Depth is bass pre drive while the bass control is bass post drive. A side is pretty clean with an amp-ish tone. B side drive is in the Xotic BB Preamp ballpark.

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Tell me more about your mother!
I see, on the rear, there are two orifices where you can plug in.
The description says they have different flavors, but omits if one of them is balanced - is it?
 
Also, does anyone here have any experience with the Simplifier Bass Station?
I must admit that I'll always chuckle to myself when I see that name on a pedal that could not sport a more chaotic and complex layout with a myriad of switches and knobs of different sizes - but looking closer at it, it does more or less exactly what I want. You get a mids knob that's slightly off my preferred 500-600Hz area, but with 400Hz not too far off, plus cab sim.
 
The Mother has two eq contours coming out. One is full flavored for going to a recording interface, etc. The second has some high and low roll off intended to be plugged into the input of a bass amp, under the assumption that bass rigs do their own sweetening/coloring. The original Mother had the fully flavored output running through the bypass/mute as a mute. I wrote to them saying that us pedal board people would need a fully flavored output that has a pedal bypass. Strangely, they had not considered this use case. I sold mine because I did not want it always on. A year or so later I take another look and they put a note in the manual that based on user feedback they fixed it so you can bypass the pedal the direct fully flavored out. So, I'll give it another go. It's in the Bassrig SV vicinity for amp tone with the benefit of a second drive channel.
 
The Mother has two eq contours coming out. One is full flavored for going to a recording interface, etc. The second has some high and low roll off intended to be plugged into the input of a bass amp, under the assumption that bass rigs do their own sweetening/coloring. The original Mother had the fully flavored output running through the bypass/mute as a mute. I wrote to them saying that us pedal board people would need a fully flavored output that has a pedal bypass. Strangely, they had not considered this use case. I sold mine because I did not want it always on. A year or so later I take another look and they put a note in the manual that based on user feedback they fixed it so you can bypass the pedal the direct fully flavored out. So, I'll give it another go. It's in the Bassrig SV vicinity for amp tone with the benefit of a second drive channel.
That sounds super weird to me.
Usually, I'd think the amp out would send the full range signal and the other output has some extra flavor on it.
 
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That sounds super weird to me.
Usually, I'd think the amp out would send the full range signal and the other output has some extra flavor on it.
From the Mother manual:

"Most instrument amps have an inherent/baked-in voicing that emphasizes treble, bass, and cuts mids to varying degrees (Yes, even amps that are typically referred to as “mid-heavy”). This EQ curve compliments guitar and bass pickups, and for better or worse, is what we’re accustomed to hearing as a “neutral” or even “natural” electric guitar sound. The Mother preamp pedal replicates the full tonal response of the real amp (with a flattering EQ curve of its own), but what happens when you take that carefully designed EQ curve and run it into the frontend of a typical guitar or bass amp? Essentially, two EQ's in a row. Double the bass, double the mid-scoop, and double the treble. Too much of a good thing by most standards, creating an exaggerated EQ curve that for most situations would be undesirable (this is subjective, of course). To solve this, the Mother's leftmost jack, simply-named Output, is carefully voiced to work with your amps existing preamp, so it won't get too boomy, scooped, or harsh, while keeping full functionality of the pedal's EQ controls."

So, the Output jack has some high and low dialed back to better match going into the from of an amp rig. To get their fully flavored amp simulation, you use the Direct Out jack. I guess it sort of like the Origin Bassrig mini bass and treble controls on their 1/4" out, intended to contour the Bassrig for plugging into the front of an amp.
 
From the Mother manual:

"Most instrument amps have an inherent/baked-in voicing that emphasizes treble, bass, and cuts mids to varying degrees (Yes, even amps that are typically referred to as “mid-heavy”). This EQ curve compliments guitar and bass pickups, and for better or worse, is what we’re accustomed to hearing as a “neutral” or even “natural” electric guitar sound. The Mother preamp pedal replicates the full tonal response of the real amp (with a flattering EQ curve of its own), but what happens when you take that carefully designed EQ curve and run it into the frontend of a typical guitar or bass amp? Essentially, two EQ's in a row. Double the bass, double the mid-scoop, and double the treble. Too much of a good thing by most standards, creating an exaggerated EQ curve that for most situations would be undesirable (this is subjective, of course). To solve this, the Mother's leftmost jack, simply-named Output, is carefully voiced to work with your amps existing preamp, so it won't get too boomy, scooped, or harsh, while keeping full functionality of the pedal's EQ controls."

So, the Output jack has some high and low dialed back to better match going into the from of an amp rig. To get their fully flavored amp simulation, you use the Direct Out jack. I guess it sort of like the Origin Bassrig mini bass and treble controls on their 1/4" out, intended to contour the Bassrig for plugging into the front of an amp.
I see now, “full-flavoured” as opposed to “full-range.” Makes more sense.

And I lied before. I do want to know what the “absence” control does 🙂.
 
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It sounds a bit like the Mother was created by engineers who tried to do the preamp thing for guitar players who are not entirely sold on the pedalboard straight to PA thing as bassists are, and the idea has a strange flavor to it, but not necessarily a bad one - just unusual. Stacking bathtub EQs is, or can be a problem. I've encountered that on the metal board with the Fake Plastic Trees (no mids control) into the Meatsmoke (Fender Tone Stack, so mids are cut only) into the Bassrig SV (The mids knob gives you access to 220, 800, 2,2k). That stack gets so tubby that, as the avid reader of the jounal knows, when I swapped basses from the P bass to the Aria Pro II Fakenbacker, I had to drop in the Aguilar DB316 EQ pedal to combat that.
 
I'm so far north, the supermarkets accept Danish currency.
@gillento that was not a joke. The Danish border is not far off, and since Scandinavian countries have obscene taxation on everything containing alcohol, selling booze to Danes and Swedes is a solid business here.

I've seen those two guys from Sweden load up their beaten up van once. Their limit was not the actual car's specs on how much weight it's rated for, but how low the rear wheels sat in the wheelhouse. From my viewpoint it looked like they aimed for two fingers from the top of the wheel to the chassis.