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My DIY battery amp / acoustic jam solution .

Jan 25, 2020
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This subject comes up fairly regularly on these forums , so I apologise if this is not the solution for you .
I play with an acoustic group of folk musicians on occasion and normally use a small Markbass combo or PJB briefcase . We had a once a year event before covid that restarted a few week ago . The event is only reachable by foot or bicycle and is a few hours walking to get there . I never found a solution that would allow me to play amplified bass up there . Even the briefcase is a hell of a heavy lump to carry that far and battery is only good for an hour . So I set my brain to thinking of a solution .
Tried a resonator guitar strung with 4 strings tuned up a fifth from regular bass i.e BEAD but the jury is still out on that one . Nice sounding instrument but not sure where it fits in . So BG and amp it is . I have a PJB C2 , which is small and light and also a PJB Bighead headphone amp . So I thought that by using the bighead as a preamp , I need a small battery powered power amp .
This is what I came up with .
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A 18v drill battery 2Ah with a home made connector
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A 30W mono class D amp board from ebay for a fiver . Connections for 3.5mm jack input from preamp , 1/4in out for cabinet and power in from battery were attached to the board .
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Stick it all in a box ,

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Connect it up with the wireless from bass and off we go .
This was only done yesterday as I am still waiting for a Hotone nano bass thunder to be delivered but I think that may be surplus to requirements now . First impressions are good . Plenty of volume for my purposes and a nice neutral tone . Battery should be good for at least an hour , maybe 2 and can be changed in seconds . I have plenty of them in the garage . Obviously this ain't gonna blow the windows out but that was never the idea . I have other amps for that . The plan was to make it possible to accompany a few folk players out in the sticks , as the option was playing nothing , as I did this year .
The Bighead is quite a powerful headphone amp so I have to be careful with the output levels into the new power amp , cos distortion from a class D amp is not nice . By upping the gain and rolling off the volume on the bighead , you can get a slightly overdriven tone if needed .
Early days in its development but I will have a play with it over the next few weeks and let you know how it works out , if anyone is interested .
I would like to try it out on my 112 as it is a lot more sensitive than the C2 but not exactly portable which kind of defeats the object . And it will be interesting to compare it to the Hotone bass thunder when it arrives .
At least it kept me out of the pub yesterday ;);):bassist:
 
Thank you . And one word of advice . If you copy the idea , use an insulated output jack to the speaker if it is in a metal box . The mono amp is bridged tied load output so has no reference to ground . Don't bother asking how I know this . ;)

The scenario that spawned your creation will likely never come my way. But thanks for the tip.
 
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Cute, but realize that if there is a short anywhere past the battery, it's possible to cause a serious fire due to the high discharge rate. Batteries are supposed to contain an overcurrent protection device (there are several types) but many off shore replacement battery packs do not contain these and a fire in a lithium ion battery is both "spectacular" and scary at the same time.
 
I like this. At times just a little bit of help playing double bass at acoustic sessions would save my fingers, but in a low-key way and without needing mains. I dallied with the idea of a 12v car amplifier with a battery but I didn't get as far as building it, so thanks for sharing a finished project!
 
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Cute, but realize that if there is a short anywhere past the battery, it's possible to cause a serious fire due to the high discharge rate. Batteries are supposed to contain an overcurrent protection device (there are several types) but many off shore replacement battery packs do not contain these and a fire in a lithium ion battery is both "spectacular" and scary at the same time.

Good point . I am pretty sure that the batteries are short protected as I inadvertently tried it while troubleshooting the output jack problem . This was very much a rough and ready prototype/proof of concept that was built in a day with whatever came to hand but I think a blade fuse holder in line with the battery supply would be a valuable improvement . Thanks for the heads up .

Very neat :) If you've had the chance to ever play a PJB Double-four, how does this solution compare to that? I gather that the C2 cab should be a bit louder, but size-wise perhaps the two are comparable?

I would imagine that the double four is far superior in both sound and volume . It is designed and built for the job by folk who do this for a living , rather than a hack job with leftover parts .
 
Quick update . Just received Hotone nano bass thunder mini amp . Have used this as preamp and FX send socket to input of DIY power amp . Everything set at noon . It seems that this may be the best solution so far , as the PJB bighead phones O/P is a bit hot , and the phones output on the Hotone distorts more than the FX send , despite no noticeable volume difference . It should also reduce power consumption as power amp section of Hotone nano is not being used . After messing around for 30 mins or so , battery voltage has dropped by 0.2V ! Spilitter cable for the power supply powers both the Hotone and the power amp . I am thinking that I may get 2 hours from a 2Ah battery . I will report back when I have time to test it til the battery runs out .
In the meantime , here are a few pics of latest setup.....
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That is cool. Here is my latest over the counter solution. I have not figured out how many hours I will get on a charge. But it seems like at least a few. The little BC-10 is pretty loud and only draws 20w.

Nice setup . I am guessing that you have a DC input on your Warwick amp ? EU ones only have the 240 AC input . Apparently it draws 22W at full power , so at 18v it will draw just under 1.25A . So your 4Ah battery should be good for 3 hours or so . Practice is better than theory so try it out and report back .
 
I built something sort of like this but using off-the shelf kits for preamp and power amp. I found that it had far too much hum, but I was using an ungrounded power supply running off mains and that may have had a lot to do with that problem.
 
Nice setup . I am guessing that you have a DC input on your Warwick amp ? EU ones only have the 240 AC input . Apparently it draws 22W at full power , so at 18v it will draw just under 1.25A . So your 4Ah battery should be good for 3 hours or so . Practice is better than theory so try it out and report back .
That is a Ryobi 150 watt power inverter that sits on their batteries to give 120V AC for running your computer or other small devices on the jobsite/go.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-1...-Battery-Tool-Only-RYi150BG/308460871#overlay

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It’s cool that you are figuring things out for a battery powered setup, but for the money spent, I bet you would be better off with one or maybe even a couple of these.

they work great with whatever your favorite preamp is. They even sound great with no preamp. There’s no EQ on the speaker besides the three levels of bass boost. I bought two for $99 each and last I looked on Amazon they had them priced even cheaper
 
I already had the C2 cab and the PJB bighead and both are used regularly . Hotone bass thunder was £60 . Total cost of power amp was £5.95 for the class D board from ebay . The rest came from stuff I have in the workshop . One of the main ideas was to make it all as small as possible . Amp and Hotone nano fit in gigbag .
And I like designing and building stuff to keep the grey matter working.
Nice idea though .