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My guitarist keeps down tuning

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by remainthesame, Mar 31, 2013.


  1. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    Hey guys, I would love to hear what you all think about this.
    I am a 5 string player, and I have been for most of the time that I've played bass. when I joined my current band about 2 years ago, my guitarist played in drop Bb on a six string guitar. I suggested that he should get a 7 string and play in drop A, I told him that his strings wouldn't be as floppy and its only a half step lower. After rejecting this theory for months he finally decided to go with a 7 and we changed our tuning to drop A.
    Now hes tuning his low B down as far as he can. He claims he wants an 8 string, and to play in E. I keep trying to explain to him that I cant go that low. I keep telling him that the E he wants to go to is the lowest note on a four string bass. He keeps saying "play the octave" but then I wouldn't ever have any use for my B string, so I'd pretty much end up having to buy a four string. His upgrade will force me to downgrade.
    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Epitaph04

    Epitaph04 EBMM Nut

    Jul 5, 2010
    Santa Barbara, CA
    Just play in the same octave.
     
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  4. Worshipbass12

    Worshipbass12

    Feb 23, 2013
    Nw georgia
    You could still use your 5 string no reason not to, I haven't never tuned below drop d I don't like floppy strings and not gonna let a gui**** effect how I want my bass to feel
     
  5. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    I just dont see the point in having a bass player if youre going to be able to reproduce the lowest note on a four string.
     
  6. Batmensch

    Batmensch Supporting Member

    Jul 4, 2010
    Chester, Pa.,USA
    Because like, it soundz heavier, man. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Stewie26

    Stewie26 Gold Supporting Member

    Got to agree with the above. Sounds like you have a selfish guitar player. It's all about him.
     
  8. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    Sounds like your guitarist is already the bassist in your band. Offer to play guitar in his project.
     
  9. Ragoo

    Ragoo

    Oct 14, 2011
    Richardson, Texas
    I think at this point, we can safely assume that your gui**** just wants to play bass.
     
  10. Ragoo

    Ragoo

    Oct 14, 2011
    Richardson, Texas
    Whoa.
     
  11. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    I love this band but I would seriously have to consider leaving if he gets an 8 string, i dont want to have to dumb down my playing because of him.
     
  12. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    haha ive joked around about that with him. i asked him how he would feel if i could hit higher than his highest note. he said hed tell me to buy a guitar, so i told him he should buy a bass
     
  13. Personatech

    Personatech Supporting Member

    I have to agree with what others have said regarding your guitarist but I have to ask: since when is moving from 5-string to 4-string a "downgrade?" :eyebrow:
     
  14. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    im not trying to insult the 4 string players out there, in fact sometimes theres nothing i like more than breaking out the ol 4 string and slapping away. but for me, i have a lot of parts in this band that require me to use all 5 strings. i wouldnt be able to play the same on a four string
     
  15. kdogg

    kdogg

    Nov 13, 2005
    Ohio
    Some bands down tune. If you're not interested in playing that low, I certainly wouldn't be, than it may be time to find another project to work with.

    On the other hand, you may find that you get into it after a bit of experimenting with your tuning and setups.
     
  16. DanGouge

    DanGouge

    May 25, 2000
    Canada!
    There was a Warwick model a few years back tuned F# B E A. (I.e.: an F# below the low B on most 5s.) You could try to track one of those down.
     
  17. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    im all for down tuning. ive played in a lot of wierd tunings, but eventually you reach a point where its too low. you can always go the next half step lower and it will always sound slightly heavier as a result. but eventually youre going to sound like mud
     
  18. Unless you like mud, may be play with someone else or switch to keyboards?


     
  19. Dash Rantic

    Dash Rantic

    Nov 12, 2005
    Palo Alto, CA
    Agreed. He wants low E? Tell the "guitarist" to get one of those new Fender Pawn Shop Bass VIs or equivalent, and then you're free to play guitar over top him :p

    Or, tell him to stop turning the whole band's sound into mud, and to tune up. Past a certain point, there is absolutely no reason for that extreme downtuning.

    --
     
  20. Nashrakh

    Nashrakh

    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    Bass and guitars in the same octave certainly works for some (most famously Meshuggah), so I wouldn't rule it out completely. There might be some fun to be had there.
     
  21. Just because it works for Meshuggah doesn't mean everyone should do it.

    They seriuosly should put "Don't try this at home"-stickers on their albums...