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My Krappy Bass custom build

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to the OP - excellent bass! have you considered fitting a stabiliser bar to steady it?

KS - I did consider a stabilizer bar (or whatever they're called), and even started to install a threaded insert to hold it, but instead I got a cello end-pin-rest. The rubber tip on the post fits snugly into the little metal cup on the cello rest, and it doesn't twist. Works like a champ.
 
Having a ball with it! Compact & light... but rock solid. Neck & fingerboard very comfortable. Sweet sound... smooth, deep, can really get booming when I crank up the volume. Two Octave neck... don't even miss D & G strings! Simple no-frills instrument... but well made by the krapmeister... hats off to him. I will get a few pix to post here
 
Absolutely… tuned E, A (low-to-high… or….I guues... low-to-not-as-low).

I’ve dicked around with other folks' fretlessess before... but this is the first one I’ve ever owned. Found a few grain-marks on the neck that are useful for visual reference.
Even better.. the strings he put on it are clearly quite used. There are marks worn into them by the frets of the previous instrument they were on. These marks are actually helping me a lot! So even though I want to get new strings on it soon (once I learn my way around the neck and before I play it in public), right now, these old ones are serving as tutors!

I always thought flatwound strings were standard practice for fretless basses. Maybe not so for punk basses!? Kevin set it up with rounds. And although I initially thought that
I would put new flats on… I don’t know. The rounds are sounding and feeling just fine. I think I might replace them with 2 more roundwound strings. Is that really uncommon for fretless basses, or no ?

The only other bass I own is my 75 Fender precision. Pretty soon that’s going into the shop for some overhaul & modification. So my 2-string FretLesPaul is going to be my
main axe for a while!
 
What???? Didn't you read the Manifesto? What makes you think you'd be getting fancy-schmancy _new_ strings???? :-) :-) :-)

Flats (or groundwounds/halfrounds) are nice on fretlesses because they can produce more mwahh (more string contact with the board), plus they don't beat the crap out of the fingerboards like roundwounds can. Rounds have a brighter sound, which I'd imagine might be advantageous in a PunkBass.

I have GHS Brite Flats on my Wishbass and love 'em. My Brice fretless-6 shipped with roundwounds, which I played for a while, but you can see the little scars left on the rosewood fingerboard by the roundwound windings. The Twig also came with rounds, but I don't think they had the handy built-in fret markers like your used rounds did! :-) I'm not sure if they're new or used, but they sound pretty new, and aren't corroded or stained.

Real Soon Now I need to get new strings for the 6, the 4, and the 3. I think I'm going to try the GHS on the Twiggy, just because I like the feel and sound.
 
Oh yeah - I didn't think of that - damage to the fingerboard. Thanks for pointing that out... would not want to mar up my nice tigerwood board. Maybe I will take you up on your rec and try the Brite Wounds. Thanks for the tip. Wonder if I can find them individually at any local music store? If I have to buy a whole set... hey, could I interest you in a D & G string ?!?
 
KS - I did consider a stabilizer bar (or whatever they're called), and even started to install a threaded insert to hold it, but instead I got a cello end-pin-rest. The rubber tip on the post fits snugly into the little metal cup on the cello rest, and it doesn't twist. Works like a champ.

ah, good work. one of those bars would kind of spoil the stripped down look, i guess.

nice clip - it sounds a bit like a cross between a fretless and an EUB!
 
Hey thanks for another tip, Pete.

(Almost) no music stores in Albany NY area have Brite Flats in stock.

(Parkway Music in Clifton Park has one set.. buts its the Medium-Light guage, and -plus- its a whole set of 4)

I ordered from JustStrings: E's and A's, 2 of each (from the Medium guage line .108 and .084).

Is there a Krappy Owners Online group - or are WE it ???
 
Hey Pete - how is it tuning your Krappy with those tiny tuners? With the used strings that came with mine, I was able to tune the strings up to the desired E/A; but it was slightly painful on the fingers, trying to apply the necessary leverage to those little buttons. When I received the Brite Flats in the mail, and put them on - forget it. With my fingers alone, I simply could not get the new strings tight enough! So I took a block of wood and sawed a notch into it, just wide enough to accomodate the tuner buttons. Voila! My own homemade Krappy tuning wrench! Got the new strings tuned up. I wonder if the new-ness of the strings was the main culprit, and perhaps I will be able to tune them by hand as they get worn in? Or do the Flats have more resistance, and I will always need to use the wrench? Maybe I can find bigger buttons to screw onto the tuning machines, that will provide more leverage.

Anyway - playing around with a 2 string fretless is proving to be a very tasty challenge. Especially as I want to play more than just root/fifth oompah lines.

I've always been a basic box position guy, visualizing my scales as they straddled the strings, perpendicular to the neck. Now, w/ only 2 strings, I am trying to see my scales as patterns that ascend vertically up the neck! I always realized that the frets on a bass get closer together as you move up the neck. Who cares - just put my fingers where the frets are. But...on my FretLesPaul 2, this little piece of musical geometry is an important factor to consider.

Fortunately, I have a good ear. I can tell my note is off upon attack, and quickly slide into where I should be. Then it sounds like I am doing this on purpose, for musical effect. (I am willing to bet that this is a common trick of fretless bassists!)

j
 
I haven't yet changed the strings on the Twig - mine appear to be new. I will transition to some form of flatwound One Of These Days Real Soon Now.

The tuners _are_ stiff. I had to bring it up to concert pitch when I first got it in the mail, but fortunately they've stayed very close to true since then. Not much appreciable slippage. I'm not sure what sort of tuners they are, but they appear to be some sort of Grover knockoff. Being closed, I don't know what the gear ratio is, but to build it into such a tiny package, they're probably going to be tight. The tiny knobs don't help the situation.

I've got a couple of guitar crankwinders I could try if needed. I imagine I'll be looking closer at the tuner tension when I pull the stock strings off. I guess it's one of those things we need to live with at this price point. I ain't complaining.

As for scales, yeah, fewer strings makes you work and think more 'vertically'. My other basses are fretless, and you get used to it pretty quickly.