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My new first big amp.. what to buy??

I have been playing bass for 9 years and have only ever used my dads old trace elliot 4x10 combo which is now on its last legs, not to mention very heavy to lift around to rehearsals etc. I currently play in a band and we play various small/medium sized gigs, therefore portability is attractive to me as well as sound.

I have had my mind set on a markbass for a while but even then there are so many choices; do I go for the LMIII or is it worth going all out and getting the LM Tube 800? I would like to get a cab rather than a combo this time just because a few years down the line when I can afford it I would like to extend my setup.

I have no idea what to go for despite having played many different combinations in guitar shops over the past few months. Does anyone have any alternative suggestions other than markbass for around a 500w set up under $1600?
 
Everyone here is going to tell you something different. We all recommend what we have. If we didn't love it, we probably wouldn't own it. Take your bass and go to every music shop in your area. Try everything out, mix and match heads and cabs, and go with what makes you weak in the knees.

Some advice, fill out your profile. People can give their experiences with things you own and/or shops in your area.
 
I have both the Tonehammer and the GS212. I would not qualify this as a big amp. When playing with drums and a guitar halfstack with a marshall 4x12 and 100w head that has both gain and master set to twelve o'clock, neither the Little Mark nor the Tonehammer 500 can compete with only the GS212. Sure you can hear the Bass, but it's a lot weaker than the guitar.
Add another cab and you'll blast the guitarplayer's sorry little behind against the back wall, though.
 
Genz Benz Shuttle/Streamliner/Shuttle Max and an Uber can. Lightweight and versatile especially the Shuttle/Shuttle Max. You can pi k up both used for well under your price line. Great amps!


Yup - and besides sounding great, their stuff is very well built and reliable - and backed by some of the best customer service in the biz - can't say that about Markbass or Ampeg... I play Mesa and Genz-Benz, and believe me - my Genz-Benz gear isn't inferior to my Mesa gear in any way...



- georgestrings
 
Since I'm rather impressed by my new combo, a TC Electronic BG250 (been using and carrying around an SVT and it's 8x10 for years before), I'd suggest you check out what TC Electronic does in terms of bigger amps. Of course, the BG250 combo might even work for your purpose, but if you want something bigger, maybe a BH250 head and a BC410 cab? Never tried this set up but it's worth it to take a look...
 
I really like the cab - although it's not for everyone - but the head is overweight and overrated power-wise, IMO...Given today's choices, he can do much better, IMO...


- georgestrings



Well, I suggested the Pro 4 because the older SLM models have a pretty good sound and pretty good power, but if it were me I would be looking for an SVT or SVT II non-Pro. Both of these heads are nice and heavy though.
 
I have been playing bass for 9 years and have only ever used my dads old trace elliot 4x10 combo which is now on its last legs, not to mention very heavy to lift around to rehearsals etc. I currently play in a band and we play various small/medium sized gigs, therefore portability is attractive to me as well as sound.

I have had my mind set on a markbass for a while but even then there are so many choices; do I go for the LMIII or is it worth going all out and getting the LM Tube 800? I would like to get a cab rather than a combo this time just because a few years down the line when I can afford it I would like to extend my setup.

I have no idea what to go for despite having played many different combinations in guitar shops over the past few months. Does anyone have any alternative suggestions other than markbass for around a 500w set up under $1600?

Many apologies for the length of this :eek: . 1st, for $1600 (probably more like $12-1300, or even less) you can put together a super rig, amplifier & cabinet.

amp:

Many, many fine amps to buy. Decide what you like most & then buy it used. The classifieds here at TalkBass are a great place to pick it up. The majority of guys who sell here keep their gear in pretty good shape (or excellent, even mint condition), so imho you have an excellent chance to get a fine unit at a good price. Can always check Craigslist, too, but I think it's more of a gamble than here. Of course you also can check for sales that are available on the amp you like if you want a new amp. And www.ebay.com is a good place to check as well for both used & new. Just be sure to check out the seller.

Buying the newest, latest, & greatest will cost you the most bucks. That's not to say don't go with the newest/latest/greatest if that's really what you want. But there are lots of excellent amps that used to be the newest/latest/greatest (maybe just 6 months or a year ago :bassist: ) & still are excellent units but just are no longer the "flavor of the day." There are also amps that have been around for years but are still fine choices. You can often get a really good deal on these. And bang-for-the-buck, new or used, they are often better choices, unless again you must have the most current amp. Just wanted you to be aware.

If you're looking new only, a couple of places I'd recommend you check before you buy are www.RMCaudiodirect.com & www.ProAudioStar.com . RMC doesn't have everything on the market, but they do have pretty good deals on the inventory they do carry. Pro Audio Star often has new units at the same (or sometimes lower) prices than many used units you find. They can be a bit brusque at times (they're in Brooklin, lol), but they still have some nice deals. They're on ebay also & many of their auctions have a "make offer" option. If you see something that you like, always make an offer. All they can say is "no." More times than not they'll accept, or at least come back with a counter offer that's less than their asking/"buy it now" price. They have no emotional attachment to the gear they sell, unlike individuals, so you can many times (but not always, of course) get a lower price. And don't be afraid to haggle some, regardless from whom you're looking to buy, new or, especially, used.

cab:

I have just 2 suggestions...

1. A 15/6 (a 2-way box with a 15" driver & a dedicated midrange driver). The specific 15"? The Eminence Kappa Lite 3015LF (low frequency). IMHO, the only 15, period, to consider for this format. The specific midrange? The 6.5" 18Sound 6ND410 is my top candidate, although there are maybe a half dozen fine possibilities here. I just think the 18Sound is the top choice. PM if you're interested in others (or other members might chime in with their choices.) These 2 speakers are 2 of the very, very best speakers on the market.

This 15/6 can give you 410 volume (at least) & is both much smaller & lighter than any 410.

http://www.usspeaker.com/Kappa Lite-3015lf-1.htm

http://www.usspeaker.com/eighteensound-6ND410-1.htm

2. A 115 (no midrange driver, no tweeter) with either an Eminence Kappa Lite 3015 (non-LF) or Faital Pro 15PR400. Both of these speakers are full-range and work great by themselves. Some guys may think there's another one or two 15s that work as well, but for many (likely most), these are the top 2 full-range choices. They sure are for me. Both are tremendous, just different flavors of terrific.

Neither of these will give you the volume of the 15/6, but they'll both still be very loud if you want. And if you're really just doing small/medium gigs (even without FOH support), both will be plenty loud enough (at least as loud as a very good 212). They'll also both be less expensive (& a bit smaller/lighter as well) because you're not paying for the midrange driver or the crossover that are in the 15/6.

http://www.usspeaker.com/Kappa Lite-3015-1.htm

http://www.usspeaker.com/faital pro 15PR400-1.htm

These type cabinets, both the 15/6 & 115, show up used in the Talkbass classifieds. Keep an eye out for them.

If you'd rather go new, there's a very well-respected pro builder that will get one of these cabs to you for the least coin I've come across. New from this guy is often right in the same ballpark as used from others. PM if you'd like more info.
 
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I use to play a trace Elliot 4x10 combo. 7 graphic equalizer.
Loved it but awkward carrying it. It was rated at 400 watts I believe.
I sold it off so I can purchase a Warwick bass.

I would recommend you a Gallien Krueger 700rb mark II. Amp head.
480 watts @4ohms.

Also, Gallien Krueger NEO 2x12.
600 watts power handling
Either 4ohms or 8ohms if you think about adding another cab.

Roughly $1200 set up.
Or a GK 700rb with a 4x12 - roughly $1600 rig.

My background with amp heads are:
Ampeg
Trace Elliot
SWR
Carvin
Sunn

I prefer GK over these. I have a 2001rb! Fell in love with the power, flexibility, and GK growl. :D
 
If it has to be markbass, then I suggest you try the 104hf. They are really punchy with a strong bass. Front ports helps to get the sound 'out' so to say. Standing next to it you'll have no issues hearing yourself.

If you combine that cab with one of their 500W heads where you have the semi-parametric EQ, I doubt you'll need much else unless you're playing very large venues without PA.

Also, take the 8ohm version, just in case you decide to get another cab in the future. You can get a 102hf to put on top or another 104hf, I tried both combinations last week and they all sound great!