Won't be needed. A properly functioning door will do just fine despite the lack of awning and shallow eave at the gable end.
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My New Studio Build (perhaps overly detailed)
- Thread starter silky smoove
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Agreed. If they can make doors like that for the Swedish coast climate, I suppose they should work in Seattle too.
Not to mention that I have working examples of it on the south and east sides of my house! The studio door is south facing, so it's really apples to apples. The awning thing is doubly, and even triply nonsense because it doesn't take into account rain falling in any direction but straight down. What about when there's some wind that blows the rain into the door below the awning? What about the settling fog that's so prevalent here in Seattle? What about the morning marine layer found in proximity to Puget Sound, which you can see from my property, on cool mornings condensing on structures?
The awning solution was basically like saying "We have a sick patient, so we'll put a hat on him."
The awning solution was basically like saying "We have a sick patient, so we'll put a hat on him."
After what feels like an eternity, all of the quotes are in, and the builder is going to issue a full refund for the cost of the faulty door and the labor to install it, the cost to have my painter repair and repaint all areas affected by the removal and replacement of the door, and finally a replacement door logo. Once that credit is issued I'll be getting a third party contractor in to install a higher quality door. I used a great contractor for this at my old house and was very happy with the result, so I'll likely go with them this time around as well. Hopefully with this I'll be on the road to moving forward with interior construction, getting final building permits wrapped up, and then on to electrical. Hopefully more to come soon.
It will be similar thing to what was put in. The goal is to use a pair of full lite doors (exterior and then the sound door at the interior partition wall/sound isolation perimeter) such that SOME natural light can get into the space. There aren't any windows, so the only lighting will be electrical. I always feel better when natural light is part of the equation. It will compromise some of the sound isolation potential, but I feel like it's a compromise that's worthwhile.
The current door is fiberglass. I might (emphasis on might) go with a stained clear fir door to match what's on my house, but I know that will be quite a jump up in price. Maybe worth it though. We'll see.
Any natural light makes a big difference. I once worked in a windowless room, couple that with the sound isolation of a studio, it can mess with your mind. There are semi-transparent window signs/logos that optimize light passing through. Perhaps worth considering.
My logo uses such fine linework that it won't block much light. The surround is clear making it even more of a non-issue. There's a picture of it somewhere in this thread... Possibly many pages ago, haha.
EDIT: Found it!
Your right about blocking being a non issue. I didn't know if you were planning on keeping the original design or changing it.
I watched a SSL studio video made at woodshed studio in california. It's a pretty big place. The light is spectacular. What caught my eye was the glass room dividers that interlock with the ceiling and floor. I don't see how they can make it work with all that glass.
I watched a SSL studio video made at woodshed studio in california. It's a pretty big place. The light is spectacular. What caught my eye was the glass room dividers that interlock with the ceiling and floor. I don't see how they can make it work with all that glass.
Places with tons of glass that still have great isolation are mind boggling. I suppose with enough money and space anything is possible.
Perhaps it's a matter of scale and application. If they are recording at very low levels maybe they find that it works for what they do. Recording acoustic guitar in a tiled bathroom can work but it can't serve as a general recording space. So what they can do is limited. How much so is the problem.
Replacement door contractor scheduled for next Tuesday to give me an estimate. With a little luck in a month I'll be back to where I was six months ago! 
It seems there are modern glass construction techniques that solves the sound isolation issues. We have a new apartment block nearby, with huge windows just few meters from the railroad. Sweden has very strict rules for indoor sound levels, but they say it is completely silent inside. Thick glass is really heavy, so I guess that property alone takes care of most of the noise, but I'm not sure about the low freq rumble.
Anyway, as you say, I guess it is mostly a matter of money. And with a lot of glass in a studio you'd still need some heavy curtains or similar to be able to adjust the acoustical properties according to what you need.
But sunlight is a huge bonus and makes the recording process much more enjoyable (especially if this is where you'd make your living).
A local studio has floor to ceiling windows that face a busy downtown street... and the railroad tracks right across that street. You'd never know unless the curtains are open.
New door contractor came to the house this morning and walked through what I wanted with me. This was a contractor I used on my last house to replace the front door and a sliding glass door. I really liked the work they did, and the type of doors they installed, so I'm hopeful that they'll do a great job on this project as well.
He identified a bunch of areas where the builder had screwed up on the door install. He wasn't surprised at all that it was leaking given things that he pointed out. He was trying to save me as much money as possible by reusing the door jamb, the threshold, etc. but I didn't want to risk having any of the existing stuff be a problem. I told him to plan on gutting the opening down to the studs and rebuilding it CORRECTLY.
Additionally, he had a solution to allow for an out-swing door, which is what I wanted initially, but was told would be impossible by the builder. This will allow me to have an out-swing door to the exterior, which will allow the interior sound isolation door to open into the vestibule rather than the studio space. That means I'll have more room to operate without needing to keep things clear of a 3' radius door swing at the back wall in the studio space. This will afford me an extra little bit of space between the front of a bass drum and the back of my chair in the mix position.
As per usual with the project; More money, better end product. I can deal with that.
He identified a bunch of areas where the builder had screwed up on the door install. He wasn't surprised at all that it was leaking given things that he pointed out. He was trying to save me as much money as possible by reusing the door jamb, the threshold, etc. but I didn't want to risk having any of the existing stuff be a problem. I told him to plan on gutting the opening down to the studs and rebuilding it CORRECTLY.
Additionally, he had a solution to allow for an out-swing door, which is what I wanted initially, but was told would be impossible by the builder. This will allow me to have an out-swing door to the exterior, which will allow the interior sound isolation door to open into the vestibule rather than the studio space. That means I'll have more room to operate without needing to keep things clear of a 3' radius door swing at the back wall in the studio space. This will afford me an extra little bit of space between the front of a bass drum and the back of my chair in the mix position.
As per usual with the project; More money, better end product. I can deal with that.
Sounds like he will make it right.
Like you said, the outswing door will make all the difference. In some areas, this is code. In the event of an emergency, you want to push the door to exit.
Don't worry, it's only money. In this case, well spent.
Like you said, the outswing door will make all the difference. In some areas, this is code. In the event of an emergency, you want to push the door to exit.
Don't worry, it's only money. In this case, well spent.
I recently had a chance to check out some Burl Audio converters (B80 mothership rack) with an Ams-Neve Genesys Black console. Nice console, but the converters were truly outstanding. worth looking at the Burl products if anyone has a chance.
It's typically code for nonresidential structures. For residential you're typically allowed either swing. That's my understanding of the IBC, but obviously local codes will vary.
Regardless, this will be a win for me on a few levels... just not the wallet, haha.
Burl makes ridiculous stuff. Their Bomber series always makes me drool.
Regardless, this will be a win for me on a few levels... just not the wallet, haha.
Burl makes ridiculous stuff. Their Bomber series always makes me drool.
