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My odd technique

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by dinghy, Jul 21, 2007.


  1. cnltb

    cnltb

    May 28, 2005
    I use this technique sometimes when playing chord progressions.
     
  2. glink

    glink

    Feb 16, 2007
    Saw a great trick by Bill "Buddah" Dickens on you Tube that really helped me get my alternating right hand fingers working. You put a piece of rope under the strings right at the end of the fretboard. You then sit (or even lay down as I did) for hours and watch TV or whatever and just keep alternating those right hand two fingers on one string at a time for hours. Then you progress to string skipping. The rope is muting the strings, you don't need to be using your amp or your left hand. You are just building speed, strength and muscle memory into those fingers. I did it for hours for days and weeks and it sure helped me a lot. My bass teacher whom I respect a lot will smack my hand if he catches me not alternating! P.S. Someone may want to find that video on you tube and link to it here.:bassist:
     
  3. jweiss

    jweiss Supporting Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    Park City, Utah
    Great idea!

    My bass teacher was the same way - he would stop me mid-tune to correct my technique!
     
  4. ebladeboi123

    ebladeboi123

    Jul 11, 2005
    Oberlin, Oh
    Sorry to be a bummer but this technique (if its the only fingerstyle you can do) will infact limit you. If you'd like an example here's one. I challenge you to play What is hip (tower of power) in that style. There is no way you can hit the 7th Fret E that fast with one finger, I struggle with 2... A few suggestions were given that were good. I'd just keep practicing an alternating finger technique (you'd be surprised how much a metronome will help) first set it to about 40 BPM just play quarter notes, then eighth notes, then sixteenith notes. Then try doing some triplets- then change up your triplets (rest on the first note of the triplet, try with the middle and last note). This will help you ALOT.

    But on the bright side, the technique you're useing could be really cool for some chordal stuff and especially playing solo stuff. But, I'd really reconmend getting your chops going on normal fingerstyle as well (why limit yourself).

    Dan
     
  5. jweiss

    jweiss Supporting Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    Park City, Utah
    Here's the video:

     
  6. Sneckumhaw

    Sneckumhaw

    Apr 26, 2006
    Earth
    Did I say you had to like it? I suggested you be a little more tactful and try not to insult so many members of the bass community by saying "ew". It doesn't matter, I just think you could have chosen your words a lot better. As a sidenote there's not one "sound" a pick on a bass produces, Carol Kaye, Chris Squire and Steve Swallow sounding as dissimilar from each other as Lee Sklar, Jack Bruce and Jaco do. Don't use a pick if you don't want, but it is a far more versatile and comfortable technique than you seem willing to accept.
     
  7. BassAvenger1

    BassAvenger1

    Apr 2, 2007
    seems to me that playing that way would give you an edge. unless your working on only one string. do what works for you, but its always a good idea to learn several different techniques.
     
  8. rockwarnick

    rockwarnick

    Jul 29, 2006
    Rockville, MD
    dude thats crazy, ive never seen/heard that before. i think im going to try that out today when i get home.
     
  9. maryhyphenbeth

    maryhyphenbeth

    Jun 19, 2007
    Toronto
    A pick sounds like a good solution. I figure it would at least save my manicure, but the last thing I want is to be accused of being a former guitarist. If it wasn't for bass, I wouldn't play guitar at all, so triple EW to that.

    I sometimes find myself forgetting to alternate between the two fingers. I bet a consistent 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 would help a lot with timing...I haven't tried practising with my metronome yet.

    Bass Guitar for Dummies tells you to practise striking with two fingers like this:
    going dow
    E - 1
    A - 2
    D - 1
    G - 2

    rake back up to E with 1, and when you get there, strike E again with 2.

    E - 2
    A - 1
    D - 2
    G - 1

    and rake back up with 2 to begin again.
    I don't know anything about bass guitar...but, my first lesson is tonight, so...I figure eventually it'll all come to me.
    Thank you Jweiss. Your posts are inspiring! Motivating? Same thing!
     
  10. seanm

    seanm I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize!

    Feb 19, 2004
    Ottawa, Canada
    I watched a bass player play like that. Unfortunately, he said no to going though my amp and went through the PA instead. The sound guy had the slider at -infinity. "Didn't want to hurt his speakers." :rollno:
     
  11. jweiss

    jweiss Supporting Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    Park City, Utah
    You're welcome :)

    The raking thing is debated. I was taught never to rake, but there are those who swear by it, including many famous players.

    In the example that you gave, without raking it would simply be:

    E - 1
    A - 2
    D - 1
    G - 2
    D - 1
    A - 2
    E - 1

    See what feels best. I can do it both ways but I find it easier to just ALWAYS alternate, regardless of string changes or direction changes.

    Cheers,

    Jeff
     
  12. Sneckumhaw

    Sneckumhaw

    Apr 26, 2006
    Earth
    If somebody says you are a former guitarist just because you use a pick and they're wrong, tell them they're wrong or don't worry too much about them. For some people it's just a more economical, practical way to play. I, like you, played bass long before guitar, and it took a long time before I figured out that a pick was perfect for me.
     
  13. Thats really interesting, I can see how it would limit you if you are trying to play certain styles of bass, ( jaco type stuff, and a lot of fast one string runs ). I would practice the " standard " way with 2 fingers.
     
  14. Chipsonfire

    Chipsonfire

    Jul 20, 2007
    Socorro, NM
    I remember watching that vid but completely forgot about it. I should do that tonight; I need to work on my finger alternation technique. Doesn't feel right yet lol.
     
  15. Chipsonfire

    Chipsonfire

    Jul 20, 2007
    Socorro, NM
    Well, I've looked again at the Bill Dicken's technique and kinda modified it. First, I don't really see a need for the string, I just don't have the amp on. If I'm missing some fundamental detail about the string please let me know. Second, instead of a metronome, clock and TV, I just put some music on that I like and keep time to that. I switch fingers every song and try to keep the length of the songs pretty similar. This keeps me occupied, allows me to practice in a passive way and inspires me to be a better bassist (all my music is bass heavy lol). I suggest you try it :)
     
  16. Tinybasschick

    Tinybasschick

    Jul 20, 2007
    I have short, stubby fingers and so I use three fingers over four strings. It works well unless I think about what I'm doing, then they get tangled up! If I leave them alone they just naturally go where I need them.
     
  17. bizzaro

    bizzaro

    Aug 21, 2000
    Vermont
    And some songs just don't sound "right" without a pick. I usually play finger style, but never hesitate to use a pick when needed:bassist:
     
  18. tbone409

    tbone409

    Feb 17, 2007
    kenosha, wi
    the whole idea of the string is to jack the string height up more like an upright. i use this technique for right and left hand strength. the rope especially helps left hand dexterity. has really helped my speed and accuracy.
     
  19. Chipsonfire

    Chipsonfire

    Jul 20, 2007
    Socorro, NM
    Yea, it eventually occurred to me lol. I use a sock rolled like a string instead. I dont have any of these fancy "voodoo strings."
     

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