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Natural sounding octave up

Hey, I'm looking to improve my octave up effect. I'm using a TC Sub'n'Up atm, have used an EHX Pitchfork before and also an EHX Ring Thing.
All of them sound very synthy and unnatural. I'm looking to mimic a guitar sound on top of my bass. So, is there such a thing as a natural sounding polyphonic octave up effect? Preferably not bigger than a Boss pedal.
 
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Have you ever tried a light overdrive after your digital octave up or sending it to a slightly dirty guitar amp? While it makes it more distorted, it does make it sound a little more natural because it will clip the ice-pick high end and round off some treble. An analog octave up is distorted to begin with, but more sensitive to where on the neck you play and of course, no chords. See if you can try routing it separately; send the octave up signal into a light OD and sum the signal later with a mixer or summing pedal, or send the octave up signal into a slightly dirty guitar amp. The Boss OC-5, EHX Nano and Micro POG, probably others have this option for wet/dry out
 
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Hey, I'm looking to improve my octave up effect. I'm using a TC Sub'n'Up atm, have used an EHX Pitchfork before and also an EHX Ring Thing.
All of them sound very synthy and unnatural. I'm looking to mimic a guitar sound on top of my bass. So, is there such a thing as a natural sounding polyphonic octave up effect? Preferably not bigger than a Boss pedal.
IME the best oif the bunch is the TRex Quint Machine and I have tried almost all of them.
I've done a running review here and it appears to be on sale at a number of places right now.
I like iot so much I have 2.
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Let's not use the word "guitar" but rather how do you make a 4-string bass sound like an 8-string bass!
This is a very important distinction. If you want it to sound like an 8-string bass then just about any octave-up will work to varying degrees of believability. However, if you want it to sound like there's a guitar playing a unison line with you the octave-up can't be perfectly timed with yours or it just sounds like an 8-string bass. Using something like the TC Electronic Mimiq Doubler follwed by an octave-up pedal on the dub side of the Mimiq would be a more convincing way to go.
 
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Hey, I'm looking to improve my octave up effect. I'm using a TC Sub'n'Up atm, have used an EHX Pitchfork before and also an EHX Ring Thing.
All of them sound very synthy and unnatural. I'm looking to mimic a guitar sound on top of my bass. So, is there such a thing as a natural sounding polyphonic octave up effect? Preferably not bigger than a Boss pedal.
So what I did, as I also found most of them pretty unpleasant sounding:

I would split my signal, one side dry. The wet side goes low pass (or bandpass or eq) —-> octave up —> eq —> blend with dry

The first low pass etc removes string noise and upper mid content to alleviate some of the crappy glassy shrill sounds, leaving mostly 'fundamental' going into the octaver. The eq on the way out, preferably a graphic eq but it all depends, shapes the sound to taste, usually I'm backing off upper mids again to tame the warble.

that's all catered towards the 'bass solo with an octave up to thicken the sound' kinda thing. A similar approach can be used to cater to the sound you want- I also get a lot of mileage out of actually high-passing it, slamming it into dirt and getting a monstrous wall of sound, but that's kinda leaning into the nastiness of the octave up.

If you want to sound like you're playing an octave higher without the root, I have a couple tricks, though to me it never really gets near a usable 'clean' sound. What I do is bandpass the signal hard, really isolating the low mids for the fundamental, bonus points if you're using a jazz bridge pickup- I will then blend in a VERY highpassed clean signal, such that you only get upper harmonics and string noise. Combining the dry string noise and the filtered octave up can be a very interesting sound, but I really only use it with reverb and maybe a ton of other effects as an interesting melodic voice, rather than trying to be a telecaster or whatever.

there's a lot of meat on the bones for these kind of modular splitting setups, but it also gets pretty expensive or complicated if you're not able to design or build your own stuff (I have a splitter-blender fx loop patch pedal that has high low and bandpass switchable for in and out for each channel)
 
Hey, I'm looking to improve my octave up effect. I'm using a TC Sub'n'Up atm, have used an EHX Pitchfork before and also an EHX Ring Thing.
All of them sound very synthy and unnatural. I'm looking to mimic a guitar sound on top of my bass. So, is there such a thing as a natural sounding polyphonic octave up effect? Preferably not bigger than a Boss pedal.

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Mooer Tender Octaver is a great bang for the buck. It does octaves up and down and you have independent controls of each.

Mooer might be Asian-made copies of the sexier names in the pedal biz, but their stuff sounds decent and it won't break the bank. I have no shame in using their products. :smug:

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Mooer got a C&D from EHX because it's a mono clone of the Micro Pog to the letter, so Mooer redesigned it and the V2 is vastly inferior imho. I managed to get a V1 just before they disappeared, though ;)

At any rate, no, there's no octave pedal that does any better than kinda sorta like a guitar.
 
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