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NBD - Epiphone Thunderbird Classic IV Pro!

Jun 20, 2009
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After a long, patient hunt, I finally took possession of my immaculate Epi T-Bird Classic IV Pro in Alpine White. Got a crazy good deal on it (with a HSC) from the GC used site. It was made in January of 2015 and it's still in brand new condition. Not a single scratch, ding or sign of wear. Most of all, it sounds FREAKING AMAZING! It's crazy how good this bass is!

I've been having trouble uploading to Photobucket, but it looks just like this:

ThndrbrdClssicIVPro_AW.jpg


I'll try to post actual pictures tomorrow.

It's hard to believe how utterly thrilled I am with this bass! Honestly, I never gave T-Birds much of a thought before. Always liked the way they looked, but never cared for the way they sounded. I know Gibson T-Bird owners hate it when people say it, but I've always found them to be too muddy/boomy for my taste (I'm sorry, that's just how they sound to me... but I'm a jazz bass guy).

I'm sure grateful a TB'er turned me on to the Classic IV Pro... It's a monster! Growly and articulate with great bottom! When I picked it up at my local GC, they had a Gibson 120th Anniversary T-Bird hanging on the wall, so I took the opportunity to A/B it against the Epi. The difference was like night and day, strongly in the Epiphone's favor (IMO). The Gibson sounded tubby and thumpy, even with highs and high mids cranked on the amp (and tone dimed on the bass). The Epi just sounded like a freaking wrecking machine by comparison! Real aggressive with a solid low end. Admittedly, I found it best to roll back the neck pickup about 25% to tighten up the bottom, but otherwise, it's a solid tone machine with a lot of range.

I can't remember the last time I got this excited about a bass! Probably when I got my 4003 back in '08 (unfortunately, that love affair didn't last).

As if getting this barely used, super-clean bass and case weren't enough, I also got an additional, unexpected bonus, when I opened the accessory compartment. Inside, I found an expensive, leather, Franklin strap (I know they're expensive because I already own an almost identical one... paid $75 for it in a moment of questionable judgement.... but they are really nice!) with Schaller strap locks attached - and the matching buttons on the body!

I just need to do a set-up on it. Neck has a little too much relief for my liking. Nothing a truss rod adjustment won't fix... Maybe lower the bridge a little. Unfortunately, the truss rod nut is metric and I can't find my metric hex wrenches. I'm also thinking about changing the bridge for a Hipshot replacement, but I don't think it needs any other mods... and I'm a compulsive modder.

I figured on changing the pickguard to a black one, or something to contrast with the white, but after getting it home I kind of like the white-on-white look. Asked the wife what she thought about changing the PG and she said: "I think the only thing you need to do is play that thing!" :D
 
After a long, patient hunt, I finally took possession of my immaculate Epi T-Bird Classic IV Pro in Alpine White. Got a crazy good deal on it (with a HSC) from the GC used site. It was made in January of 2015 and it's still in brand new condition. Not a single scratch, ding or sign of wear. Most of all, it sounds FREAKING AMAZING! It's crazy how good this bass is!

I've been having trouble uploading to Photobucket, but it looks just like this:

ThndrbrdClssicIVPro_AW.jpg


I'll try to post actual pictures tomorrow.

It's hard to believe how utterly thrilled I am with this bass! Honestly, I never gave T-Birds much of a thought before. Always liked the way they looked, but never cared for the way they sounded. I know Gibson T-Bird owners hate it when people say it, but I've always found them to be too muddy/boomy for my taste (I'm sorry, that's just how they sound to me... but I'm a jazz bass guy).

I'm sure grateful a TB'er turned me on to the Classic IV Pro... It's a monster! Growly and articulate with great bottom! When I picked it up at my local GC, they had a Gibson 120th Anniversary T-Bird hanging on the wall, so I took the opportunity to A/B it against the Epi. The difference was like night and day, strongly in the Epiphone's favor (IMO). The Gibson sounded tubby and thumpy, even with highs and high mids cranked on the amp (and tone dimed on the bass). The Epi just sounded like a freaking wrecking machine by comparison! Real aggressive with a solid low end. Admittedly, I found it best to roll back the neck pickup about 25% to tighten up the bottom, but otherwise, it's a solid tone machine with a lot of range.

I can't remember the last time I got this excited about a bass! Probably when I got my 4003 back in '08 (unfortunately, that love affair didn't last).

As if getting this barely used, super-clean bass and case weren't enough, I also got an additional, unexpected bonus, when I opened the accessory compartment. Inside, I found an expensive, leather, Franklin strap (I know they're expensive because I already own an almost identical one... paid $75 for it in a moment of questionable judgement.... but they are really nice!) with Schaller strap locks attached - and the matching buttons on the body!

I just need to do a set-up on it. Neck has a little too much relief for my liking. Nothing a truss rod adjustment won't fix... Maybe lower the bridge a little. Unfortunately, the truss rod nut is metric and I can't find my metric hex wrenches. I'm also thinking about changing the bridge for a Hipshot replacement, but I don't think it needs any other mods... and I'm a compulsive modder.

I figured on changing the pickguard to a black one, or something to contrast with the white, but after getting it home I kind of like the white-on-white look. Asked the wife what she thought about changing the PG and she said: "I think the only thing you need to do is play that thing!" :D

Looks great. I'm so tempted to pick one of these up too. Enjoy your new Bird!!
 
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Looks great. I'm so tempted to pick one of these up too. Enjoy your new Bird!!

Thanks. I HIGHLY recommend it. Even if you don't like T-Birds. Hell... ESPECIALLY if you don't like T-Birds.

She's a beauty Lo-Hz, glad to hear you finally got possession. Definitely post photos please!

Thanks EdO. At least now I can shut up about my GAS for one. o_O

I'll try posting some pictures after I wake up a bit more (and if Photobucket is willing).
 
Ok, I located some metric allen wrenches, so I was able to adjust the truss rod and do a set-up this morning. It's got super-low action now with NO fret buzz. Can't find any fault with the fret work, either. This bass is just about perfect! The only thing that might bother me is the inability to adjust the height of the saddles individually, but I think I can live with that. I might get the Hipshot replacement bridge anyway.

I played it standing up with a strap for the first time today. I experienced no neck-dive. Of course, I was using a wide, grippy leather strap, but it never felt like it wanted to dive. However, having played Fender style basses for most of my playing life, I found the feel of the T-Bird takes a little getting used to. I won't lie, it's a little awkward... but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

The more I play this thing, the more I love the tones I'm getting out of it! I'm no longer afraid of soloing the neck pickup, or turning it all the way up. It's bassy, yeah, but it's tight and defined. This bass is a heavy hitter for sure, but I would have to deliberately try to make it sound 'muddy'.

I just can't say enough great things about this bass!

Photobucket seems to be functioning properly now, so here's some pics to prove it happened:

tbird-full.gif


tbird-body.gif


tbird-headstock.gif
 
After a long, patient hunt, I finally took possession of my immaculate Epi T-Bird Classic IV Pro in Alpine White. Got a crazy good deal on it (with a HSC) from the GC used site. It was made in January of 2015 and it's still in brand new condition. Not a single scratch, ding or sign of wear. Most of all, it sounds FREAKING AMAZING! It's crazy how good this bass is!

I've been having trouble uploading to Photobucket, but it looks just like this:

ThndrbrdClssicIVPro_AW.jpg


I'll try to post actual pictures tomorrow.

It's hard to believe how utterly thrilled I am with this bass! Honestly, I never gave T-Birds much of a thought before. Always liked the way they looked, but never cared for the way they sounded. I know Gibson T-Bird owners hate it when people say it, but I've always found them to be too muddy/boomy for my taste (I'm sorry, that's just how they sound to me... but I'm a jazz bass guy).

I'm sure grateful a TB'er turned me on to the Classic IV Pro... It's a monster! Growly and articulate with great bottom! When I picked it up at my local GC, they had a Gibson 120th Anniversary T-Bird hanging on the wall, so I took the opportunity to A/B it against the Epi. The difference was like night and day, strongly in the Epiphone's favor (IMO). The Gibson sounded tubby and thumpy, even with highs and high mids cranked on the amp (and tone dimed on the bass). The Epi just sounded like a freaking wrecking machine by comparison! Real aggressive with a solid low end. Admittedly, I found it best to roll back the neck pickup about 25% to tighten up the bottom, but otherwise, it's a solid tone machine with a lot of range.

I can't remember the last time I got this excited about a bass! Probably when I got my 4003 back in '08 (unfortunately, that love affair didn't last).

As if getting this barely used, super-clean bass and case weren't enough, I also got an additional, unexpected bonus, when I opened the accessory compartment. Inside, I found an expensive, leather, Franklin strap (I know they're expensive because I already own an almost identical one... paid $75 for it in a moment of questionable judgement.... but they are really nice!) with Schaller strap locks attached - and the matching buttons on the body!

I just need to do a set-up on it. Neck has a little too much relief for my liking. Nothing a truss rod adjustment won't fix... Maybe lower the bridge a little. Unfortunately, the truss rod nut is metric and I can't find my metric hex wrenches. I'm also thinking about changing the bridge for a Hipshot replacement, but I don't think it needs any other mods... and I'm a compulsive modder.

I figured on changing the pickguard to a black one, or something to contrast with the white, but after getting it home I kind of like the white-on-white look. Asked the wife what she thought about changing the PG and she said: "I think the only thing you need to do is play that thing!" :D
Damn, I've been talking about buying the exact same one for over a year!
That's one classy bass.
I almost sent away for the Babicz full-contact bridge for it...I figured if I had the bridge I'd have to buy the bass. I even contacted a online sight about getting a custom white pearl pickguard with a red Thunderbird emblem.
 
Damn, I've been talking about buying the exact same one for over a year!
That's one classy bass.
I almost sent away for the Babicz full-contact bridge for it...I figured if I had the bridge I'd have to buy the bass. I even contacted a online sight about getting a custom white pearl pickguard with a red Thunderbird emblem.

Ha! I thought that same thing too... If I buy pickguard/bridge for it before I actually get the bass, maybe it'll come about sooner kinda thing.

I actually could have gotten one sooner, but I had certain rules that I stuck to and I'm glad I did. First rule was, it had to be used, but in very good to excellent condition. I don't mind a few dings and scratches, but I wasn't going to jump on a beater, no matter how cheap it was. Second rule: It had to come with a case. I had no desire to try to track down a case for this and pay $110-$120 for it. Third rule: it had to cost somewhere between $350-$400 for the whole deal (a tall order, considering you usually see these go used for $350-$450 for just the bass. I predict $450 will become more the norm now that the new price has gone up fifty clams. Fourth rule: It had to be Alpine White. You see a lot more Vintage Sunburst than white ones on the used market and I almost "settled" for a sunburst one a number of times. I don't know if it would diminish my enjoyment of the bass to any great degree, but you might as well get what you want, right? Actually, I really wish they came in more than two finishes. I'm kinda settling with the white one too, but with the tone that this thing puts out, I don'y really care.

Still debating over changing the pickguard, though... I just feel like it needs some contrast to break it up a little. I was considering black or black pearloid, but black seems a little too obvious a choice, and really, any color will work on white (even tort!). Has anybody done any interesting pickguard changes on their white T-Birds??
 
This guy has some interesting colors.
He's the manufacturer who said he could make me white pearl with a red Thunderbird emblem...I want mine to be different, too.

materials

I saw one with a gold pickguard once, not the typical plastic flat-looking one, and it looked pretty good. I even considered getting Mica Marble but they're not exactly cheap.
2u8lcuu.jpg

I will definitely buy one of these Thunderbirds one day...I check GC for used ones from time to time...and I already have a Gator Pro Go gig bag, one of the few gig bags this bass will fit in, so I don't have to consider finding one with a case.
 
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Ok, I located some metric allen wrenches, so I was able to adjust the truss rod and do a set-up this morning. It's got super-low action now with NO fret buzz. Can't find any fault with the fret work, either. This bass is just about perfect! The only thing that might bother me is the inability to adjust the height of the saddles individually, but I think I can live with that. I might get the Hipshot replacement bridge anyway.

I played it standing up with a strap for the first time today. I experienced no neck-dive. Of course, I was using a wide, grippy leather strap, but it never felt like it wanted to dive. However, having played Fender style basses for most of my playing life, I found the feel of the T-Bird takes a little getting used to. I won't lie, it's a little awkward... but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

The more I play this thing, the more I love the tones I'm getting out of it! I'm no longer afraid of soloing the neck pickup, or turning it all the way up. It's bassy, yeah, but it's tight and defined. This bass is a heavy hitter for sure, but I would have to deliberately try to make it sound 'muddy'.

I just can't say enough great things about this bass!

Photobucket seems to be functioning properly now, so here's some pics to prove it happened:

tbird-full.gif


tbird-body.gif


tbird-headstock.gif

Welcome to th club of happy Classic Pro IV users! It really is a fantastic bass... :)
 
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This guy has some interesting colors.
He's the manufacturer who said he could make me white pearl with a red Thunderbird emblem...I want mine to be different, too.

materials

I saw one with a gold pickguard once, not the typical plastic flat-looking one, and it looked pretty good. I even considered getting Mica Marble but they're not exactly cheap.
2u8lcuu.jpg

I will definitely buy one of these Thunderbirds one day...I check GC for used ones from time to time...and I already have a Gator Pro Go gig bag, one of the few gig bags this bass will fit in, so I don't have to consider finding one with a case.

Thanks JD... I had checked out Quickguards before I bought the T-Bird and it looks like the plain white TB guard is $45... $50 with the emblem engraved. I thought that was a little spendy for a white PG (I'm assuming other materials will be more expensive) but I guess that's about the going rate.

I was digging that mica material at Pickguardian when I was looking to change the PG on my Jaguar bass.
Didn't check the price (I ended up painting that PG "champaign gold" and it looks great on the 3TS finish!
 
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Congrats nice pickup!! Post more pics after you mod it... you know it's coming sooner rather than later =)

I was hoping this would be the first bass I wouldn't feel the need to mod. The pickups are definitely staying put (usually the first thing I replace).

I would like to change the bridge at some point. I prefer to be able to adjust the saddle height individually. But I have no problem with it right now. I set it up with super-low action. String radius feels right and I get ZERO fret buzz. But I'm concerned about the inserts pulling out over time.

I also might change the tuners, too. They're a little sticky sometimes.
 
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Thanks JD... I had checked out Quickguards before I bought the T-Bird and it looks like the plain white TB guard is $45... $50 with the emblem engraved. I thought that was a little spendy for a white PG (I'm assuming other materials will be more expensive) but I guess that's about the going rate.

I was digging that mica material at Pickguardian when I was looking to change the PG on my Jaguar bass.
Didn't check the price (I ended up painting that PG "champaign gold" and it looks great on the 3TS finish!
Hey, I really like unusual pickguards but sometimes the prices are crazy!
That's why I did my own a few years ago.
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Something like that...oil paint pen. I still have one Thunderbird decal around here somewhere...only the bird, I cut off the cross...but I just can't find it!

I can have vinyl cut decals made where I work. I was going to do that if I got a PG without the bird on it (or if I painted the one I have). If you need one, let me know and I'll mail one out to you.
 
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Ha! I thought that same thing too... If I buy pickguard/bridge for it before I actually get the bass, maybe it'll come about sooner kinda thing.

I actually could have gotten one sooner, but I had certain rules that I stuck to and I'm glad I did. First rule was, it had to be used, but in very good to excellent condition. I don't mind a few dings and scratches, but I wasn't going to jump on a beater, no matter how cheap it was. Second rule: It had to come with a case. I had no desire to try to track down a case for this and pay $110-$120 for it. Third rule: it had to cost somewhere between $350-$400 for the whole deal (a tall order, considering you usually see these go used for $350-$450 for just the bass. I predict $450 will become more the norm now that the new price has gone up fifty clams. Fourth rule: It had to be Alpine White. You see a lot more Vintage Sunburst than white ones on the used market and I almost "settled" for a sunburst one a number of times. I don't know if it would diminish my enjoyment of the bass to any great degree, but you might as well get what you want, right? Actually, I really wish they came in more than two finishes. I'm kinda settling with the white one too, but with the tone that this thing puts out, I don'y really care.

Still debating over changing the pickguard, though... I just feel like it needs some contrast to break it up a little. I was considering black or black pearloid, but black seems a little too obvious a choice, and really, any color will work on white (even tort!). Has anybody done any interesting pickguard changes on their white T-Birds??
 

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