NCAA Bowl Season 2011

[burk48237]

An interesting look at a different angle than TV replay ever bothered to show:

That view makes overturning the touchdown look a lot less questionable.

Relevant rule -

Incomplete Pass
ARTICLE 7. a. Any forward pass is incomplete if the ball is out of bounds by rule or if it touches the ground when not firmly controlled by a player. It also is incomplete when a player leaves his feet and receives the pass but first lands on or outside a boundary line, unless his progress has been stopped in the field of play or end zone (Rule 4-1-3-p) (A.R. 2-4-3-III and A.R. 7-3-7-I).

I was surprised it got overturned, but that was the replay I saw that made me not feel bad about it. The ball hit the ground and bounced up into the recievers chest. He did not maintain control all the way to the ground.

 

[BioDriver]

Speaking of receiving, I had to turn off the Orange Bowl. There's been a score every drive and it's obvious both teams' defenses are phoning it in. I love high powered offenses when they overcome the other team's D, whereas in this case there's no challenge.

 

[basstotheface]

Again, stats. Analysts have mostly agreed that the SEC is the toughest conference for as long as I can remember. Our passion in the league and brutal play is on display every week. Referencing some bowl records doesn't disprove this.

That's a super short memory span.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

S Car, and Arkansas get considerably worse. Arkansas is basically all seniors.

I don't see SC getting worse. Their quaterback is coming and Lattimore will be healthy. Clowney and the rest of the defense will be back also. I think they will have a great shot at the SEC East.

 

[MJ5150]

63-20?

*yawn* No thank you.

-Mike

 

[Eublet]

I don't see SC getting worse. Their quaterback is coming and Lattimore will be healthy. Clowney and the rest of the defense will be back also. I think they will have a great shot at the SEC East.

+1 Spurrier will have things moving, but they have a very tough schedule next year. They could well be improved over this year but actually have a worse record to show for it.

 

[Eublet]

63-20?

*yawn* No thank you.

-Mike

IMHO the SEC should have skipped Mizzou with their largely passive fanbase and picked up West Virginia instead. At least those folks love their football team and get excited about things.

 

[Eublet]

That's a super short memory span.

I'm suddenly reminded of the ever so politically incorrect "Arguing on the internet is like running in the..." picture that I won't post here.

I give up!!!

 

[Dr. Cheese]

+1 Spurrier will have things moving, but they have a very tough schedule next year. They could well be improved over this year but actually have a worse record to show for it.

I could see that, but the days of Carolina being intimidated by the big boys are over. I suspect that Carolina is capable of taking out Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, or LSU, next year. More than likely, not all of them, but maybe one or two of them. I think Florida will be significantly better, and that will be a battle. Remember that Mizzou will be in the SEC East, and that will be interesting too.

BTW, I still think Spurrier may be the best college coach ever based on what he has done at South Carolina. SCAR is a program that seemed almost cursed, but now it is a legitimate upper level SEC program. As some others have said, the great success of South Carolina baseball with back to back World Series wins has probably rubbed off on the football team too.

 

[Eublet]

I could see that, but the days of Carolina being intimidated by the big boys are over. I suspect that Carolina is capable of taking out Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, or LSU, next year. More than likely, not all of them, but maybe one or two of them. I think Florida will be significantly better, and that will be a battle. Remember that Mizzou will be in the SEC East, and that will be interesting too.

Oh yeah, I don't think they've been intimidated for a few years now. 11-2 is a killer season, and just tough to top. I think most everyone is expecting Carolina to be improved next year, but if that means expectations are for them to win 12+ games, that could be disappointing. It's a shame because really this year they should have beaten Auburn for sure, which would have put them in Atlanta for another loss most likely, but still they'd have been the East champ two years straight. I used to hate Spurrier, but now he's one of my favorites. I love his antics and grumpy nature when someone sets him off.

 

[BioDriver]

IMHO the SEC should have skipped Mizzou with their largely passive fanbase and picked up West Virginia instead. At least those folks love their football team and get excited about things.

It would've at least provided a defense Ole Miss and Kentucky can break

 

[Eublet]

BTW, I still think Spurrier may be the best college coach ever based on what he has done at South Carolina. SCAR is a program that seemed almost cursed, but now it is a legitimate upper level SEC program. As some others have said, the great success of South Carolina baseball with back to back World Series wins has probably rubbed off on the football team too.

I don't know that I'd call him the best EVER. That's reserved for Bear Bryant.

But seriously, he's probably one of the best in the business right now. I will admit I have been curious what would have happened had he taken the Bama job instead of Saban, or if he'd gone to LSU when Saban went to the NFL. It's taken him some time at Carolina, but I suspect he would have built a dynasty very quickly at either of those two schools. I know they just extended his contract through 2015, but I wonder how much gas he has left in the tank. I hope he stays a long time.

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I don't know that I'd call him the best EVER. That's reserved for Bear Bryant.

But seriously, he's probably one of the best in the business right now. I will admit I have been curious what would have happened had he taken the Bama job instead of Saban, or if he'd gone to LSU when Saban went to the NFL. It's taken him some time at Carolina, but I suspect he would have built a dynasty very quickly at either of those two schools. I know they just extended his contract through 2015, but I wonder how much gas he has left in the tank. I hope he stays a long time.

The Bear was a bad man indeed.

Still, remember that Spurrier has managed to build championship level programs at two schools that were traditional also rans: Florida and South Carolina. He even made Duke a bowl regular. The fact he has been so successful at mediocre or bad schools is why I am so impressed with his ability as a coach.

 

[Eublet]

I agree. I loved it when Spurrier did this. Steve Spurrier upset with writer - YouTube

 

[Dr. Cheese]

I agree. I loved it when Spurrier did this. Steve Spurrier upset with writer - YouTube

I remember that!

 

[FilterFunk]

I suspect the NCAA is eventually going to crack down on greyshirting/oversigning and that will bring the top of the SEC back in line a bit.

I've been a huge college football fan since the early '70s, and I've never seen a conference do what the SEC has done over the past 5-6 years. I'm not saying it's never happened; just not over the past 40 years. It can't be that SEC schools simply work harder or are more passionate for the game, otherwise this kind of success would happen for them every decade. I've seen individual teams dominate over the same period of time, but it's usually because of a great coach or coaches "changing the culture" (sorry about the cliche!). But how exactly does a conference do this? What is the SEC doing that other conferences aren't? Other major conferences have histories that are every bit as proud, illustrious and successful as the SEC's; why can't they keep pace now? Does greyshirting/oversigning explain it? I know that emotions run high regarding college football, but does anyone have any factual reasons for the SEC's recent success?

 

[aborgman]

Again, stats. Analysts have mostly agreed that the SEC is the toughest conference for as long as I can remember. Our passion in the league and brutal play is on display every week. Referencing some bowl records doesn't disprove this.

If analysts have agreed on that for as long as you can remember, you ain't been watching college football long.

The "SEC is the dominate conference" is absolutely a post year 2000 thing.

 

[aborgman]

BTW, I still think Spurrier may be the best college coach ever based on what he has done at South Carolina. SCAR is a program that seemed almost cursed, but now it is a legitimate upper level SEC program. As some others have said, the great success of South Carolina baseball with back to back World Series wins has probably rubbed off on the football team too.

What he's done at South Carolina pales compared to what he did at Duke.

Coaches have actually won at SC before.

 

[aborgman]

I've been a huge college football fan since the early '70s, and I've never seen a conference do what the SEC has done over the past 5-6 years. I'm not saying it's never happened; just not over the past 40 years. It can't be that SEC schools simply work harder or are more passionate for the game, otherwise this kind of success would happen for them every decade.

There are a number of reasons IMO.

1) The SEC schools (at least traditional powers) DO have more passionate fan bases and more resources than all but the top tier schools in other leagues.

2) Coaching concentration - The SEC currently has a concentration of "winning" (can't call 'em good) coaches.

3) Oversigning and greyshirting - something that has existed for years upon years but has massively accelerated in the 2000s. Alabama is the current and long term historic king of signing players merely to keep them from other teams.

4) Home field advantage in several big football recruiting states.

 

[basstotheface]

Also very low academic and behavioral standards.

































...god I wish I could've seen your face after you read that.