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After years of looking at it on the Accugroove site, redundant rehashing of the existing reviews, realizing that my Wayne Jones 2x10 is both too freaking heavy AND has terrible handle placement, a long conversation with Mark Wright, scouring the Web for a used one, and a lot of belt-tightening... I took the plunge and purchased a powered Wedgie+. And now I'm mad.

Mad because I didn't do it earlier. Mad because it exposes the shortcomings in my other two powered cabs, a PJB PB-300 and the aforementioned Wayne Jones 2x10. Both of which are top-of-the-line and which I love! But compared to the Wedgie, the PJB is suddenly mid-range honky, and the WJ is muffled-sounding. This thing is so clear, so present, so unvoiced, it's devastating. I have been throwing every situation I can think of at this thing, from plugging a Godin straight in, to running my Anagram into it, running the DI out of my Acoustic Image into it, running my Jule Simone into it, my PJB PE-5... and it keeps getting better and better. Slap tone that maintains the volume of fingerstyle without a compressor. Playing up at the 14th fret and the E string and the G string have the same presence. As Mark says, "no dead notes." And this thing has PLENTY of volume when taking the DI from one of the preamps. Freeow!

The powered version is 500W and only 32lbs. The handle is surprisingly well thought-out and makes the unit really easy to carry without bashing your legs. Also, while it's designed to be used as a monitor, it does also have feet that allow you to stand it like a normal amp (and a standard speaker pole mount to use it as a PA)--and in amp position, it actually sounds even more musical. Basically becomes their Tri 112L in that position.

It's risky to buy something without being able to play it first, especially when there aren't that many YouTube reviews of it, but this PAID OFF. If you've been considering an Accugroove product and are on the fence, I'm splashing you and telling you to jump in. The water is fine (disclaimer: do not use your Accugroove near water).

Anyway, debuting it this Friday at my band's next gig.

Lastly, since the Anagram has four outputs, I did of course also have to try a super stack of all three of my powered cabs... turns out that the PJB introduced a bit more phase cancellation than I anticipated, but the Wedgie and the Wayne Jones did play very nicely together by themselves... although that just makes me want to pair the Wedgie with yet another powered Accugroove cab... I read a post recently that said if you pair it with their 1x15, together they make an easier-to-transport El Whappo.

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Wow, congrats!

It make me wonder why we don't see them more often. Yes it's expensive, but in the passive version of this cab is in the same price range as other high-end alternatives, while offering several advantages over them. And the powered version you have seems to be perfect for all the people looking for an active cab for their preamp or modeler. PA speaker are a cheaper alternative for the active version though (the QSC K12 is half the price), but I imagine the Accugroove sounds much better.

Yes it's difficult to spend that king of money without trying first, but I've done it several times with other gear, and I don't regret.
 
I'm surprised to see on the website that there's no volume control on the cab. I don't see the point.
I understand you can controle the volume upfront, at the preamp level for example, but in the case of a Godin (or any active bass) plugged directly into the actie cab:
  • Does it mean you get the full 500W volume of the cab when the instrument's output volume is maxed? (scary)
  • If you play super quietly, with the volume of the instrument close to zero, and you want to get just a tiny touch louder, and as soon as you barely turn the knob you get a huge volume increase?
  • Or you still play super softly, at home next to the baby sleeping, and you accidently crank the volume (out of habit, or because you turn the wrong knob, or because your cat jumps on the instrument…)
 
I'm surprised to see on the website that there's no volume control on the cab. I don't see the point.
I understand you can controle the volume upfront, at the preamp level for example, but in the case of a Godin (or any active bass) plugged directly into the actie cab:
  • Does it mean you get the full 500W volume of the cab when the instrument's output volume is maxed? (scary)
  • If you play super quietly, with the volume of the instrument close to zero, and you want to get just a tiny touch louder, and as soon as you barely turn the knob you get a huge volume increase?
  • Or you still play super softly, at home next to the baby sleeping, and you accidently crank the volume (out of habit, or because you turn the wrong knob, or because your cat jumps on the instrument…)

It's not that unusual for powered cabs to have XLR in with no onboard volume, my Wayne Jones is the same. Wayne goes out of his way to caution his customers that they MUST use an outboard preamp to control the volume and to drive it. My understanding was that in the realm of powered cabs, the PJB is unusual for actually having volume control (and only being TS in/out). But I'm not familiar with how Bag End and Bergantino do it. Or Markbass' short-lived powered cab.

That being said, your supposition is correct--without a volume control, the cab just produces the max volume depending on the input gain from the instrument that's plugged in. And the Godin volume sliders are indeed volatile, so volume jumps there can be startling. But it works for me since I always have some sort of preamp on my board.
 
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I'm surprised to see on the website that there's no volume control on the cab. I don't see the point.
I understand you can controle the volume upfront, at the preamp level for example, but in the case of a Godin (or any active bass) plugged directly into the actie cab:
  • Does it mean you get the full 500W volume of the cab when the instrument's output volume is maxed? (scary)
  • If you play super quietly, with the volume of the instrument close to zero, and you want to get just a tiny touch louder, and as soon as you barely turn the knob you get a huge volume increase?
  • Or you still play super softly, at home next to the baby sleeping, and you accidently crank the volume (out of habit, or because you turn the wrong knob, or because your cat jumps on the instrument…)
Interesting. My powered AG cab has volume control on the backplate. I'm wondering if the website just shows the non-powered type cabs, because not having a volume control would be a big factor in my purchase of another one (I'm seriously considering purchasing another Tri-112). I've definitely found some preamps don't have the power to push the Tri-112--unless there was a way to adjust the sensitivity of the power amp in the cab.
 
Interesting. My powered AG cab has volume control on the backplate. I'm wondering if the website just shows the non-powered type cabs, because not having a volume control would be a big factor in my purchase of another one (I'm seriously considering purchasing another Tri-112). I've definitely found some preamps don't have the power to push the Tri-112--unless there was a way to adjust the sensitivity of the power amp in the cab.

Interesting. How old is your cab? It's possible that it used to be standard and was removed as a cost-saving measure. Mark Wright is constantly tinkering with the designs of even the established cabs to make them better.

The website definitely mentions the lack of volume control and that bears out on my Wedgie. However, I did see a larger cab on Reverb (unsuitable for my weight requirements) where the seller said it had a custom back plate that had volume control and allowed it to be used as active OR passive. So it's not like Accugroove can't add that, it's just not standard. I don't know how long a customized request would take to fulfill, though. As Mark has told me, he doesn't work for anyone so he can do anything he wants with the cabs and take his time doing it.
 
Interesting. How old is your cab? It's possible that it used to be standard and was removed as a cost-saving measure. Mark Wright is constantly tinkering with the designs of even the established cabs to make them better.

The website definitely mentions the lack of volume control and that bears out on my Wedgie. However, I did see a larger cab on Reverb (unsuitable for my weight requirements) where the seller said it had a custom back plate that had volume control and allowed it to be used as active OR passive. So it's not like Accugroove can't add that, it's just not standard. I don't know how long a customized request would take to fulfill, though. As Mark has told me, he doesn't work for anyone so he can do anything he wants with the cabs and take his time doing it.
My cab is from 2022. I'll have to check with Mark on that, because if it doesn't have a volume control, that would be problematic, especially if I'm pairing it with my older cab.
 
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I'm surprised to see on the website that there's no volume control on the cab. I don't see the point.
I understand you can controle the volume upfront, at the preamp level for example, but in the case of a Godin (or any active bass) plugged directly into the actie cab:
  • Does it mean you get the full 500W volume of the cab when the instrument's output volume is maxed? (scary)
  • If you play super quietly, with the volume of the instrument close to zero, and you want to get just a tiny touch louder, and as soon as you barely turn the knob you get a huge volume increase?
  • Or you still play super softly, at home next to the baby sleeping, and you accidently crank the volume (out of habit, or because you turn the wrong knob, or because your cat jumps on the instrument…)
Sounds like a perfect use case for an FDeck hpf/pre.
 
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It's not that unusual for powered cabs to have XLR in with no onboard volume, my Wayne Jones is the same. Wayne goes out of his way to caution his customers that they MUST use an outboard preamp to control the volume and to drive it. My understanding was that in the realm of powered cabs, the PJB is unusual for actually having volume control (and only being TS in/out). But I'm not familiar with how Bag End and Bergantino do it. Or Markbass' short-lived powered cab.

That being said, your supposition is correct--without a volume control, the cab just produces the max volume depending on the input gain from the instrument that's plugged in. And the Godin volume sliders are indeed volatile, so volume jumps there can be startling. But it works for me since I always have some sort of preamp on my board.
I don't know what is the standard, but Barefaced and GR Bass active cabs have a volume control.
 
After years of looking at it on the Accugroove site, redundant rehashing of the existing reviews, realizing that my Wayne Jones 2x10 is both too freaking heavy AND has terrible handle placement, a long conversation with Mark Wright, scouring the Web for a used one, and a lot of belt-tightening... I took the plunge and purchased a powered Wedgie+. And now I'm mad.

Mad because I didn't do it earlier. Mad because it exposes the shortcomings in my other two powered cabs, a PJB PB-300 and the aforementioned Wayne Jones 2x10. Both of which are top-of-the-line and which I love! But compared to the Wedgie, the PJB is suddenly mid-range honky, and the WJ is muffled-sounding. This thing is so clear, so present, so unvoiced, it's devastating. I have been throwing every situation I can think of at this thing, from plugging a Godin straight in, to running my Anagram into it, running the DI out of my Acoustic Image into it, running my Jule Simone into it, my PJB PE-5... and it keeps getting better and better. Slap tone that maintains the volume of fingerstyle without a compressor. Playing up at the 14th fret and the E string and the G string have the same presence. As Mark says, "no dead notes." And this thing has PLENTY of volume when taking the DI from one of the preamps. Freeow!

The powered version is 500W and only 32lbs. The handle is surprisingly well thought-out and makes the unit really easy to carry without bashing your legs. Also, while it's designed to be used as a monitor, it does also have feet that allow you to stand it like a normal amp (and a standard speaker pole mount to use it as a PA)--and in amp position, it actually sounds even more musical. Basically becomes their Tri 112L in that position.

It's risky to buy something without being able to play it first, especially when there aren't that many YouTube reviews of it, but this PAID OFF. If you've been considering an Accugroove product and are on the fence, I'm splashing you and telling you to jump in. The water is fine (disclaimer: do not use your Accugroove near water).

Anyway, debuting it this Friday at my band's next gig.

Lastly, since the Anagram has four outputs, I did of course also have to try a super stack of all three of my powered cabs... turns out that the PJB introduced a bit more phase cancellation than I anticipated, but the Wedgie and the Wayne Jones did play very nicely together by themselves... although that just makes me want to pair the Wedgie with yet another powered Accugroove cab... I read a post recently that said if you pair it with their 1x15, together they make an easier-to-transport El Whappo.

Pics or it didn't happen:

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You should try the pjb ontop of it. I've loved the mixed results I get with the pjb ontop of other bigger cabs. My favorite mix was a genzler 2x10 array with a Phil jones six pack m500 combo.
 
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The Wedgie performed well on Friday night (sadly I have thus far been unable to find pictures from the night among the socials of the various attendees and photogs); used it in amp position since we miraculously had a soundman who believed in putting bass in his monitors. Sounded nice and strong behind me, and was good to have it there when I stepped back from the front of the stage and out of the monitors’ throw. Otherwise, hard to tell what it was really doing with a stage full of sounds and earplugs in, but the tone when soundchecking was coming through. Really looking forward to how it sounds at rehearsal this weekend compared to the WJ, which is what I’d been going through.
 
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Intriguing option. If you're running a pre like the Noble or Grace Felix, where the XLR out would normally go the house, how do you feed the house your signal? Use a 1/4" to XLR adapter between pre and cab? Or does the cab have a quality XLR out?
 
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Intriguing option. If you're running a pre like the Noble or Grace Felix, where the XLR out would normally go the house, how do you feed the house your signal? Use a 1/4" to XLR adapter between pre and cab? Or does the cab have a quality XLR out?

Great questions, and you've answered it with final one--yes! The cab does have an XLR out that acts as a throughput for either extending to FOH or another powered cab (which you could of course then send to FOH).
 
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Great questions, and you've answered it with final one--yes! The cab does have an XLR out that acts as a throughput for either extending to FOH or another powered cab (which you could of course then send to FOH).
Good deal, thanks for the info! Assuming that throughput is completely unaltered (no tonal coloration or level change), it seems like a sweet setup.
 
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