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Need Advice on Video Recording off 2 IPhones

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I'm not certain this is the correct forum for this...
My band has an outdoor gig in 2 weeks.
I'm trying to find a way to record off 2 IPhones. 2 different angles.
Has anyone done this? How do you sync them up for editing?
I did a little research and found an app called Iriun. That is suppose to do that type of thing.
Just wondering if anyone here has used Iriun, or another method.

20 years ago the same band did a professional video in a studio.
The bandleader thinks that's what we need to do again.....
There has to a be a less expensive option. I think that type of thing is outdated
TYIA
 
There has to a be a less expensive option. I think that type of thing is outdated

I think there is...for DIY, I guess it would depend a good bit on whether you have any transferable software experience (for example, have you used any audio software that exposed you to working with tracks/timelines?) and how much time you want to invest in learning and working on this, but it's doable with no cost other than your time. I've never heard of Iriun, but I’d suggest checking out DaVinci Resolve. It’s a video editor that has an extremely powerful free version...meeting your "less expensive" goal.

Now I could be underestimating the experience I’ve picked up over time and all of the trial and error that went into learning, but I really can imagine a motivated person learning the basics from scratch with YouTube tutorials.

The super duper ultra short nutshell version...you’d import both videos into Resolve, which uses a timeline/track layout. That is, video clips appear as “filmstrip” representations on tracks, with linked audio/video tracks underneath. You can drag the clips around in time. You'd do that to sync the two camera angles using some clear cue in both like a drum hit, stick click count-off, or some other obvious and defined sound.

Once the videos are synced, you can cut back and forth between the two camera angles wherever you want. There are obviously a lot of details involved in the workflow (especially handling the audio tracks) but those only become clearer once you're hands on...but that’s the very basic idea.

Beyond that you can add graphics, titles, transitions and with Resolve's automated software zoom/pan (Dynamic Zoom), with the click of a button, you can add motion to a static shot, making it appear/feel as though the camera was being operated with zooming and panning.

Here's one done with 3 fixed camera (and some clips from the wives and friends' phones thrown in)



And one more basic, but same idea with a Zoom camera on a tripod out front and an iPhone next to the drummer

 
I record every show of my band, so I have a lot to share. ;)
Please note that I'm not a professional in this - not even close.
So I usually use 3 Android smartphones,, two Samsungs and one old Xiaomi. I set Samsungs on tripods when there's available space, trying to set them not close to each other. Xiaomi on mini tripod usually goes onstage and works as a bandcam.
When possible I try to get a recording from mixing console as well. When the console is digital, it's usually easy - you just give your USB drive to a sound guy, he mostly knows what to do with it. If the console is analog, I have a digital audio recorder for this.
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When the show is over, I transfer all recordings to my desktop PC, and the next stage begins.
Using audio editor (mostly GoldWave, sometimes Audacity), I extract audio from each smartphone recording and save it as a mono audio file. The bandcam sound is always crap, so I never use it. Then I create a stereo audio file, using mono files as left and right tracks. Unfortunately the audio editors I use cannot synchronize audio tracks, so I do it manually, Then I do some audio correction, i.e. match channels by level, reduce peaks, normalize overall volume, apply equalizer, etc.
Then I upload all my files into the Media Room of my favorite video editor, which is Cyberlink PowerDirector. Then I put every file on it's track, and synchronize them by audio (I think every video editor worth its salt has this ability). Then I turn sound off on all video tracks, leaving only the audio I've made, and console audio if I have it. Console audio usually is quite dry, but mixed with audio from smartphones it gives you some nice crispness.
Then goes the usual cutting, and soon enough the video is made and ready.
Here's an example.
 
It's certainly possible to get two angles with phones. Before recording make sure the phone video quality is set to the highest quality possible and make the frame rates match. I go for 4K at 24 frames a second. Also make sure you have enough storage on your phones to record enough video. I also try to get a board mix recorded separately. I can blend the board mix and the phone audio in editing. I use Adobe Premier which you do have to subscribe to. It has a handy feature that lets you synch up audio from separate clips. It might be worth it to pay somebody to do the editing.
 
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I second the use of DaVinci Resolve on a computer. It has a very powerful function called multi-cam mode that let's you sync via audio. Very accurate IME. In this mode real time camera angle edits are a breeze and you can go back and make changes after the fact. Tons of YouTube tutorials. I used to work with Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premier Elements so a lot of the workflows are familiar to me but there is always a learning curve. I just started using Resolve for multicam video a couple months ago and only needed a couple hours at YouTube university to be up and running (it had been almost 20 years since I was regularly editing video FWIW).
 
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